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05-29-2005, 09:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
Thordane65
 
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Ok... so I installed the derale fan as per their instructions. I originally used the probe style thermo switch, but it was turning the fan on late... I suspect it was because there was not much room for the probe in the rad (the derale fan almost entrierly covers a 65 rad).
Soooooooooo, I ordered another thermo switch... the kind that goes into the intake. I could not get a derale switch (3 week wait) so I instead opted for a PAINLESS switch. I was assured they were compatible...
I then set about hooking up the new switch and relay as per their instructions. Started her up and the fan was not coming on again... so I took out my tester light and began probing wires to make sure there was power. All power is where it is supposed to be.... so I decide to put the tester on the thermo switch itself... and viola! the fan comes on... So basically I am grounding the switch with the tester and it works...
Whats up with that?
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05-30-2005, 06:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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On 2005-05-29 21:50, Thordane65 wrote:
Ok... so I installed the derale fan as per their instructions. I originally used the probe style thermo switch, but it was turning the fan on late... I suspect it was because there was not much room for the probe in the rad (the derale fan almost entrierly covers a 65 rad).
Soooooooooo, I ordered another thermo switch... the kind that goes into the intake. I could not get a derale switch (3 week wait) so I instead opted for a PAINLESS switch. I was assured they were compatible...
I then set about hooking up the new switch and relay as per their instructions. Started her up and the fan was not coming on again... so I took out my tester light and began probing wires to make sure there was power. All power is where it is supposed to be.... so I decide to put the tester on the thermo switch itself... and viola! the fan comes on... So basically I am grounding the switch with the tester and it works...
Whats up with that?
HELP!!!!!
Thanks </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>

Electricity will do funny things that are unexpected.

Did you use teflon tape or sealant on the threads of the new sensor? Perhaps it isn't making a good ground contact with your engine.

The test light will supply ground to the circuit so you would have a completed circuit. So, everything appears to work except your new thermoswitch.

I would say either the new switch is defective or is not compatible. Since both switches turn ground "on" or "off", I would also believe they shoud be compatible.

Do you have an ohm meter? If so you can do a little troubleshooting. First get the car temp warmed up to a know temperature (try a meat thermometer in the radiator) and measure from the top of the new switch to ground. If the meter does not go to zero ohms at its temp, there is a problem with the switch.

If you don't want to use your car as the giunea pig, ry testing the new switch in a controled environment--connect some wires to the ohm meter and drop it into some water on the stove and bring it to a boil. See if it then deflects to 0 ohms. Again, a meat thermometer will give you an idea of the temps.

Thinking back to your original problem, the new switch is almost acting like your old radiator probe. Is there a "brain box" involved or are all your wires going straight to the fan after the relay?

Perhaps you can post a diagram of how you wired your car? That would help alot.

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05-30-2005, 11:05 AM   #3 (permalink)
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[img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_cool.gif[/img]from what you describe, you have a bad ground some where. likely the switch if you used any sealant on the threads.
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05-30-2005, 12:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yes, I think thats it!!!!
Thanks guys!
I am going to take the switch out and take off the sealant... if it still has bad ground characteristics... then I'll put a double clip on it and run a separate ground to the body.
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05-30-2005, 10:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks for the tips guys... I re-checked everything and took the switch out and cleaned off the teflon [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_frown.gif[/img] and she works great.
Funny how such a small error can cause you to prematurely gray!
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05-31-2005, 06:43 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Good Job!

Enjoy!!!!!!![img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_spin.gif[/img]
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