Ebay 408

I heard they build good engine
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On 2006-02-11 17:17, 1 Bad 88 GT wrote:
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On 2006-02-11 16:16, 67falconer wrote:
You do realize that the ebay motor is 2000 dollars less than the FRPP engine and makes more HP?

I don't think that "not" specializing in one brand of motor necessarily discounts their credibility. Nor does your not ever hearing of them.
Infact, I think that building a variety of engines shows skill level and forsight.



</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>Comparing the T and L 408 to the FRPP M-6007-C392 shows their "over 450hp" to FRPP's 475hp(which is underrated) and the C392 uses a new Sportsman block and has all forged internals, comes with a billet dist(timing preset on dyno) and WP.
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=7092


BTW I also checked their feedback and most if not all were related to timely shipping and transaction terms not HP production or durability. Also I guess you missed the fact that of their 88 total feedbacks 79 of them were in the past 12 months and 69 were within the past 6 months.

Personally I'd be wary of someone hawking something for less than 1/2 a year and claiming a good rep that no one you know can back up. Then again it's your $5300, not mine so good luck.[img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_tup.gif[/img]
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You are quoting a different engine than the one I looked at on the Ford site.
The FRP engine I compared the ebay engine to was a 430hp 392 for 6800.00. That's 1900 more for less hp.
I couldn't find a 408 to compare to on the frp site.
The 392 you saw is 7900.00. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img] Thats 2900 more than the ebay motor.
My point was to see if the ebay motor was a deal and so far I haven't seen anything better when comparing apples to apples, or as close as I could get.
Thanks for all the replies.

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On 2006-02-13 11:20, 67falconer wrote:
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My point was to see if the ebay motor was a deal and so far I haven't seen anything better when comparing apples to apples, or as close as I could get.
Thanks for all the replies.
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http://www.dssracing.com/longblocks.html

408W Pro Bullet
AFR 185 $6349.95
AFR 205 $6749.95
AFR 225 $7049.95
TFS TW "HI-LIFT" $6319.95
TFS TRACK HEATS $6174.95

They also include all forged internals, Main Support, a vast list of available and proven options and a far ranging customer base and brand recognition.


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Nice link!

Not a bad price for all forged and AFR.
And they have a layaway program just like Wally world!!

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: 67falconer on 2/14/06 6:30am ]</font>

Just spec'd out a 351C shortblock engine with them for my new 91 GT project. There crunching the numbers for me and I'll know the results some time this week. I'm looking for 600+hp for a mostly street driven car with maybe 6 trips to IRP.

We're looking at either a 351ci mill with 9:1 comp and twin turbos or 393-408ci with 11:1 NA both for pump gas. Either combo will have CHI 218cc 351C heads, solid flat tappet cam and EFI. They're wanting a Dart block but I'm leaning toward an Aussie 351C block.

I just got a quote back from DSS for a 408 long block with 550 flywheel hp. 7949.95 [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img] zoinks!
Guess I'm back to piecing together a motor.

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What were the specs?

This is copied from a PDF file sent to me from DSS. It looks like a nice engine but to too rich for my blood.
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PRO BULLET Max Quench/IN/TW: 410 cid short block for use with most inline valve and Twisted Wedge cylinder heads and will accept large cams and large valves. Balanced to racing tolerances and blueprinted, forged DSS Pro-X Series Pistons, assembled in a Level 10 CNC Block with the billet aluminum Main Support System installed with custom ARP main studs.
SPECS: BLOCK: Level 10 CNC Block- deck equalized and squared, deck plate bored and honed in CV616 with sub 10 micron filtered man-845 honing oil, and numerous other CNC operations, RODS: Forged 6.200" Full Floating 4340 H-Beams with ARP bolts, CRANK: 4.000" stroke, PISTONS: Forged Pro-X # 4537 (Max Quench/IN/TW -18cc), RINGS: Moly E-458K, ROD BEARINGS: Tri-Metal 2555CP, MAIN BEARINGS: Tri-Metal 5078M CAM
BEARINGS: Tri-Metal CC440
3,559.95T
LONGBLOCK UPGRADE: Final assembly of a short block with heads, rockers, and all other necessary parts listed below to complete the long block assembly. This critical step in the assembly process is the key to long life and maximum power. Checking and correcting rocker arm geometry, adjusting pushrod length, and setting lifter pre-load is very time consuming but pays big dividends in power and longevity. These often overlooked steps are included in this long block assembly.
PARTS: CYLINDER HEADS: Air Flow Research 205 - 1450 CAMSHAFT: Ford Racing
TIMING CHAIN: Pro Gear 3 Position Double Roller 430HDSTK LIFTERS: Ford Racing
RETAINING HARDWARE: Hydraulic (when necessary) PUSHRODS: 4130 .080" Wall
Seamless HEAD BOLTS: ARP 8740 Hex Head Bolts HEAD GASKETS: Fel Pro Graphite
PT2 ROCKER ARMS: DSS Aluminum Roller Rockers T-WASHERS: 1/2" to 7/16" reducer bushings for cylinder heads (where applicable)
3,250.00T
Change to hydraulic roller .600" lift spring - valve, retainer and keeper upgrade included 0.00 0.00T
Upgrade to hyd. roller using retrofit lifters (Ford Racing M-6500-S58 ) from flat tappet 375.00 375.00T
Upgrade to premium hyd. roller camshaft listed below 150.00 150.00T
35-000-8 Comp Cams custom hydraulic roller camshaft 0.00 0.00T
Power Package #2...
208 28oz SFI SBF balancer 1 299.95 299.95T
PA26467 SFI Flex plate 28oz/164T 1 239.95 239.95T


351W Pro Tray Windage tray 1 109.95 109.95T
ARP flex plate bolts 7/16" x .670" 6pcs (auto Trans) 1 9.95 9.95T
ARP balancer bolt 289-460 except 351C 1 19.95 19.95T
351W Package #2... 351W Package #2 Discount -64.75 -64.75
Power Package #2 351W 615.00
$7,949.95


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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: 67falconer on 2/17/06 11:57pm ]</font>

just write a check [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
Cmon i thought everyone was made of money except me?
LOL

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$3600 for a professionally prepped and assembled shortblock is not bad at all.