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10-25-2007, 06:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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89 F-150 5.0/302 Large Quantity of Unburned Fuel in Exhaust System...need some help

In the beginning of the summer, I made the following modifications to my 89 pickup.

- New Upper/Lower Intake
- MAF conversion (new computer, added additional 02 sensor, fuel injector harness, new MAP/BAP sensor)
- new plugs, wires, coil, distributor cap/rotor, igniton control
- 24lb injectors (left factory fuel pump)

Truck ran great for July, Aug, Sept, no issues except one.

Check engine light came on every now and again, upon inspection, I noticed the passenger exhaust header was cracked (this later came off in two pieces). This was approx three weeks ago. I replaced with a new set of Hedman Headers which also had me move the O2 sensor higher up on the header itself. Plugged the old 02 hole in the Y pipe cross piece.

In working on the headers, I noticed a large amout of oil in the upper intake, as it was dripping out of improperly plugged hole in the bottom of the upper intake. I also removed the plugs/wires in this process.

I ran the truck for about a week (in the dripping oil state), and started to notice really bad miss-fires on the highway, didn't appear to happen in normal street running. The miss-fires resulted in a big loss of power. I then pulled off the upper intake, plugged the hole properly. Just to be sure, I pulled off the valve covers both sides, replaced the gasets, it appeared that one of the factory covers was slighly warped, so I replaced with a new set of valve covers (much nicer than the factory). Put everything back together but the miss-fire was still there, so I then replaced all plugs with new plugs (went down a heat range back to factory and factory gap). Took the truck for a test run, and the miss-fire got 100 times worse and then started smoking out of the tailpipe with a large smell of fuel coming out of the engine compartment.

Next after running and smoking at idle, I pulled the plugs, and I noticed that No 3 plug was wet with gas, all others appeared ok. I assumed then the wire was bad, replaced, the wire and the plug and it appeared to go away (the wet plug), however, the engine still idles very rough, and smokes to no end. I'm assuming the smoke is unburned fuel as apposed to coolant due to the horrible gas smell.

So that's where I stand today, I'm not sure where to go next, perhaps, in my travels I dislodged/broke something (injector, coil wire, I don't know). Any help would be greatly appreicated, and thanks for reading through my long winded post.

-Keith
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10-25-2007, 08:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: 89 F-150 5.0/302 Large Quantity of Unburned Fuel in Exhaust System...need some he

You have an injector sticking open on that #3 I'll bet.... Replace it with another on that bank and see if that OTHER cylinder starts to mess up as well...


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10-25-2007, 08:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: 89 F-150 5.0/302 Large Quantity of Unburned Fuel in Exhaust System...need some he

interesting...is there any well to tell after pulling the injector out?

also thanks for your reply.
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10-25-2007, 10:33 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: 89 F-150 5.0/302 Large Quantity of Unburned Fuel in Exhaust System...need some he

I had this issue on a turbo coupe, the fuel pressure regulator had a hole in it letting the engine vac pull excess fuel into the intake drowning out the engine in a few cylinders. Take the vac hose off the regulator and pull it down with a vac pump. If it drops or you see fuel in the line it is shot.
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10-25-2007, 10:38 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: 89 F-150 5.0/302 Large Quantity of Unburned Fuel in Exhaust System...need some he

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I had this issue on a turbo coupe, the fuel pressure regulator had a hole in it letting the engine vac pull excess fuel into the intake drowning out the engine in a few cylinders. Take the vac hose off the regulator and pull it down with a vac pump. If it drops or you see fuel in the line it is shot.
In my list above I did forget to mention that the regulator is new and adjustable, and I do have a fuel pressure gauage attached. It runs at about 25-27 with the vac line off and plugged...
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10-25-2007, 11:19 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: 89 F-150 5.0/302 Large Quantity of Unburned Fuel in Exhaust System...need some he

My guess would be that your #3 cylinder is not firing, causing excess oxygen in the exhaust, making the O2 sensor read lean, and making the computer dump tons of extra fule into the GOOD cylinders to compensate. Just a guess, I could be way off, I try to avoid working on EFI stuff .
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10-25-2007, 11:26 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: 89 F-150 5.0/302 Large Quantity of Unburned Fuel in Exhaust System...need some he

this is really my first experience with EFI on this level.

Any thoughts on testing equipment?
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10-25-2007, 10:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: 89 F-150 5.0/302 Large Quantity of Unburned Fuel in Exhaust System...need some he

Get a NOID light from carquest at about $50 bucks and test the pulse going into your injector in #3, if the noid light comes on but does not flash then you likely have a bad computer, or the injector is hanging open...

Then SWAP that injector with another on a diffrent cylinder, then re-run the truck and check for the miss...

Also, check your Coolant Temp Sensor against a known good one, that will, as likely having already been mentioned, cause a rich run condition

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10-26-2007, 04:34 AM   #9 (permalink)
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FE thanks will do, thanks again for all your help and everyone's help.

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