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07-05-2008, 09:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
jbvj
 
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New heads - PS and ALT don't line up

I'm telling you, I'm ready to sell everything! Seems like everything I tried doing to this car turned into a major headache! My latest venture was a H/C/I swap. Original 1969 351W and accessories were in the car when I purchased it (a 1979 Cobra).

I removed the original heads and swapped a set of Jr's. I got the cam and lifters in, heads on and rockers adjusted.
I had a stealth that wouldn't fit under the hood and had to go w/ an RPM.

OK now, I tried to get the alt and PS on yesterday and there is no way to get the brackets to work. The 69 has 2 pieces that bolt to the heads but they don't line up w/ the bolt holes on the heads.




Here is the setup before I disassembled everything.



This is supposed to be my wife's ride, so I don't want to go w/ a manual rack (that thought did cross my mind). I have a new 140 alt that worked w/ my old setup that I spent some cash on so I don't want to go w/ a different setup.

I'm ready to pull the Jr's and have the original heads redone if I don't back the car into the street w/ a "For Sale" sign on it. Anyone have any tips, tricks, advise, words of wisdom or anything else before I do something I might regret?
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07-05-2008, 10:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: New heads - PS and ALT don't line up

That's messed up bro. Looks like it's time to cut and weld and modify and streatch....

Wonder why it's so far off the mark....
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07-05-2008, 12:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: New heads - PS and ALT don't line up

Looks like time for some metal welding cutting or hitting a wrecking yard. You sure do like the silicone gasket maker don't you?
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07-05-2008, 04:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: New heads - PS and ALT don't line up

looks like you just have to line up those original brackets to where they need to be and redrill the holes
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07-05-2008, 04:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: New heads - PS and ALT don't line up

I can't use the original brackets. The holes are far enough off to not be able to use them.
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07-05-2008, 05:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: New heads - PS and ALT don't line up

Sorry your having such a hard time. I ended up researching all the brackets before I started on my motor. Hopefully you know someone who can fab something up for ya. When you finally get it all done........it will be worth the wait. Don't try to rush things or you'll get too worked up. I use to be like that too.
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07-05-2008, 07:51 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: New heads - PS and ALT don't line up

Maybe try a 70-79 351W ps bracket instead?
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07-06-2008, 04:05 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: New heads - PS and ALT don't line up

Looks like you need the threaded inserts that fit into the large threaded hole, and the right size steering pump bolt and spacer. I thought origanally Ford used a 351 specific bracket for the P/S and that T shaped adapter for just the alt. I could be wrong.
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07-06-2008, 08:54 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: New heads - PS and ALT don't line up

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Looks like you need the threaded inserts that fit into the large threaded hole, and the right size steering pump bolt and spacer. I thought origanally Ford used a 351 specific bracket for the P/S and that T shaped adapter for just the alt. I could be wrong.
Good point -- you do have the threaded adapters in the heads, right?????
They don't come with heads...
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07-06-2008, 11:09 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: New heads - PS and ALT don't line up

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Looks like you need the threaded inserts that fit into the large threaded hole, and the right size steering pump bolt and spacer. I thought origanally Ford used a 351 specific bracket for the P/S and that T shaped adapter for just the alt. I could be wrong.
You're right, I don't have the plugs. I just ordered a set. I hope this is the fix.

I do have the PS adapter needed to bolt to the heads, it's sitting on top of the PS pump in the pic. And the bolt but I wanted to mount it to the bracket so I just rigged that up and used the threaded rod to show how off it is.

The T shaped is for the alt.
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