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07-15-2008, 09:23 AM
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347LX
Join Date: Jul 2004
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cam size = x amount of vaccum
Is there a rule of how much vaccum a motor will have with a given size/duration cam? How much cam can you have and still pull 15" of vaccum?
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07-15-2008, 11:13 AM
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BaronVonOttoma
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Re: cam size = x amount of vaccum
Well, I know a 292h cam pulls about 9lbs of vacuum in my Mustang.
I'd guess ~270*.
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07-15-2008, 12:47 PM
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Spali32
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Re: cam size = x amount of vaccum
I believe mine pulls about 10-11 at 1100rpms. (XE284H..240/246 @ .050)
I used to have the 270H(224/224 @.050) at it had around 17-18 I believe.
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07-15-2008, 01:10 PM
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347LX
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Re: cam size = x amount of vaccum
My 286r solid roller pulls around 10-11 also.
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07-15-2008, 03:20 PM
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289nate
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Re: cam size = x amount of vaccum
So nobody thinks things like cubic inches might play a role? I wouldn't put any faith in such a calculation unless it took a BUNCH of things into consideration. Bore, stroke, just about every aspect of the valve events, true compression, heads, intake, exhaust, etc, etc, etc...
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07-15-2008, 06:05 PM
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BaronVonOttoma
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Re: cam size = x amount of vaccum
Well sure cubes make a difference, I just assumed he was referring to a 347.
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07-15-2008, 06:31 PM
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retyler
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: cam size = x amount of vaccum
Quote:
Originally Posted by 289nate
So nobody thinks things like cubic inches might play a role? I wouldn't put any faith in such a calculation unless it took a BUNCH of things into consideration. Bore, stroke, just about every aspect of the valve events, true compression, heads, intake, exhaust, etc, etc, etc...
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very well stated. Too many variables left on the table.
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"Tell it like it is or don't tell it at all" 1964 Falcon 2dr HT, 347V8 4V, dual exhaust, 5sp, pwr assist R&P steering, AM radio, heater with defrost and 2sp fan, electric windshield wipers, cigar lighter, dlx light group, bucket seats, console and full carpet.
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07-16-2008, 01:50 AM
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PaulS1950
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Re: cam size = x amount of vaccum
The amount of overlap has as much to do with idle vacuum as the duration does. So does compression, valve size and lift.
so no, there isn't any direct correlation between just the duration and the idle vacuum you can expect.
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Paul
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specialized in Holley carbs and Ford Automatic Transmissions
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07-16-2008, 01:53 AM
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FEandGoingBroke
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Re: cam size = x amount of vaccum
Compression has absolutely zero to do with vacuum... It's what occurs AFTER compression that creates the vacuum... or am I wrong, and someone can show me how...?
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07-16-2008, 02:04 AM
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PaulS1950
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Re: cam size = x amount of vaccum
The more compression you have the more vacuum the cylinder will pull -
If you start out with less volume as you draw the vacuum it will be higher vacuum at the bottom of the stroke. The same mechanism works for pressure and vacuum.
1" of mercury is about the same as -2psi
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