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04-24-2008, 07:40 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Is the C4 and Cruise-O-Matic the same?

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04-24-2008, 04:58 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Is the C4 and Cruise-O-Matic the same?

The old Fordamatic 2-speed was a step before the cast-iron crusi-a-matic. Which turned into the FMX.

The cast iron crusi-a-matic had a rear pump. Fmx did away with the rear pump.
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04-24-2008, 08:37 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I have an old Ford factory overhaul kit in the corner that says "1970-77 C4 Cruise-O-Matic". Ford is known for constantly changing spelling and interchanging terms. It can get frustrating sometimes.

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04-24-2008, 10:02 PM   #14 (permalink)
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The old Fordamatic 2-speed was a step before the cast-iron crusi-a-matic.
What I know as the Ford 2-speed was the aluminum (1959-1963) precursor to the C4. The early cast irons were 2-speeds, but I have never heard them called by that name.
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04-25-2008, 03:53 AM   #15 (permalink)
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The BW FORD-O-MATIC Transmission

The FORD-O-MATIC (1950-1959 C: 1958) ( FOM small case-MERC-O-MATIC medium case) was a three speed single range transmission. It featured a second gear start unless first was manually selected (either shift lever or fuel pedal). The F/2/S PX (FORD-O-MATIC 2S) (1959-1964) was a true two speed aluminum one piece case that was an economy transmission.

The FORD-O-MATIC was redesigned in 1958 to become a dual range transmission (first gear start) and was named CRUISE-O-MATIC (FX). The mid case version was named the MERC-O-MATIC Multi-Drive (MX). There was also a large case introduced in 1958 for the LINC-MERC that was named the TWIN-TURBO. It was also redesigned in 1961 for LINC specific vehicles and was referred to as the HX or LX. This design was deleted in 1966 for the new C6.

1967 saw the first use of SELECT-SHIFT (selected applications) enabling the driver to fully control the trans manually.

1968 saw another design revision whereas the LX and MX were combined into the smaller LX case by eliminating the rear pump and making a much stronger transmission. This was the FMX.

The FMX was discontinued in 1980 (C: 1981) with the introduction of the AOD.

CORRECTION TO ABOVE TEXT;

The FORD-O-MATIC was redesigned in the 1958 model year to become a dual range transmission. This upgrade was named the CRUISE-O-MATIC. The origional FORD-O-MATIC was still used along with the new COM as an economy transmission. The origional FOM was discontinued for the 1959 model year and a new transmission, the F/2/S PX (a true two speed with an aluminum one piece bell and main case) was used for economy until the introduction of the C4 in 1964. The marketing term Fordomatic was given to this new model transmission.

The CRUISE-O-MATIC was replaced by the FMX in 1968, that being a Select-Shift transmission, although there was available a Select-Shift COM in 1967.
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04-28-2008, 07:45 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Is the C4 and Cruise-O-Matic the same?

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Depends on how you define "Cruise-O-Matic"
Ford definitions included C4, C6, Ford 2-speed, and all cast iron transmissions under the header "Cruise-O-Matic"
That reminded me of our past president Clinton. Didn't he say something like that depends on how you define the word sex. Bill are you working on your old Mustang? Keep Monica out of the back seat!
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05-03-2008, 08:25 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Is the C4 and Cruise-O-Matic the same?

Take a look at the shift indicator pic in this E Bay '65 Falcon. Clearly shows Cruise O Matic on the green dot indicator.eBay Motors: Ford : Falcon (item 160234473214 end time May-03-08 13:45:45 PDT)
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My son has a 58 EDSEL with a 3 speed tranny that looks like a FMX . what model is it .
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05-10-2008, 11:07 AM   #19 (permalink)
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My son has a 58 EDSEL with a 3 speed tranny that looks like a FMX . what model is it .
The 1958 EDSEL (both versions) used the Single Range FORD-O-MATIC.
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Well, my '64 F'lane has a trans code of '4' which states to be a 3-speed dual range trans. What the heck is it or what does it mean? Is it good for anything?
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