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05-17-2008, 06:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
Mattstang65
 
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reverse manual VB problem

I've been running a C4 in my car for a while, and up to now I've been running a factory valvebody with with a transgo manual/automatic shift kit. I have good parts in the tranny, a PA servo, deep pan, redneck converter, etc. I have not had any trouble with it. I wanted to upgrade to a reverse manual to get the ultimate in firm shifts and control. I bought a pa26304 (rev manual VB for 70-up) through summit racing and installed it today. Fluid looked like the day I put it in, very very minimal fines in the bottom of the pan, I was suprised based on how tough I've been on the tranny. I dropped out the old VB and installed the new, kind of a pain getting the selector and kickdown arm lined up but I eventually did. Torqued all the bolts as per the instructions, followed the included instructions to the letter. I put on the pan and fluid in the tranny. ran through the gears on jackstands and then on the ground per instructions, adding fluid to the proper level. I anxiously head out for a test spin. motor up to temp, tranny up to about 140 degrees I turn out onto the street. Up to about 2500 in first, feels fine, shift to second....feel nothing....rpms stay the same... I give it a little gas... still no felt shift....pull back to third....instant firm shift. I try again with the same results. WTF! Back into the driveway, check fluid, it's a little low so I bring the level up to the "hot" mark (tranny now up to about 160 degrees, don't remember it ever getting any higher). Test drive again, same results, no felt 1-2 shift, definite 2-3 shift. When I shift to 2nd it does not feel like neutral, car continues to motivate. just feels like I'm shifting 1-1-3. I tried calling performance automatic, but of course they are not open for questions when most guys have the time to be working on they're cars and run into these problems. Any suggestions? VB does NOT have a t-brake.
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05-18-2008, 02:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: reverse manual VB problem

Your intermediate servo is either not activating or the band is broken or fell off the adjuster link.
Time to pull the valve body out to pressure test the intermediate band operation.
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08-08-2008, 04:28 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: reverse manual VB problem

Did you get this fixed?
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08-09-2008, 07:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: reverse manual VB problem

I did and I didn't. Finally got a hold of PA and told them what was happening. They kept trying to tell me that I had to have a "bolt" in a particular place on the valve body, and that had to be my problem, old case vs newer case difference. Well I kept telling them that there were bolts in all the mounting holes in the VB, and they finally said to return it. I got my money back. I reinstalled my old VB and it works fine. Had to be a defect. I've had to spend money on some other things, carb, new tires, stuff around the house, so I haven't attempted a new manual VB. Probably gonna go wtih one from Redneck with a T-brake.
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08-09-2008, 10:42 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: reverse manual VB problem

Ok .. The broader performance kits work good too if you're looking at options
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08-10-2008, 12:18 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: reverse manual VB problem

Haven't heard of them, where do I find info on the "broader performance kits"?
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08-10-2008, 12:25 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: reverse manual VB problem

You can find them here:
Broader Performance Home Page
and when you buy parts you get access to their very good tech service.
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08-10-2008, 12:29 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: reverse manual VB problem

thanks
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