Big block or Small Block

Is the 351 cleveland a Big block or Small Block?

It is actually a small block, but bigger than the Windsor format. Alot of people refer it to a mid block.

Originally Posted by mustang42782

It is actually a small block, but bigger than the Windsor format. Alot of people refer it to a mid block.

It's got a shorter deck than a windsor (9.2 vs 9.5), but the heads make it seem huge lol. Another reason people misrepresent it as a 'big' or 'mid' block is because of the canted valves like the 385 series motors have.

Cris

Originally Posted by BOTLE FED RINO

oh come on guys just think about it, the 351c & 351w are the same cubic inch which means they are a 351 cubic inch engine, there is no such thing as big block or small block its all about the cubic inch dude

So a 455" 351w is a big block? How about my 363" 302? Or, the 390" 302 I'm building next year? Is a 360" Dodge a big or small block? The blocks 3x the size of a 302...

Hmmm....

Not sure what you're getting at here...but you might want to rethink it a bit =).

Cris

Sorry dude, but there is such thing as big block and small block. There is no such thing as a "mid block" or a "Midland".

Ford designated the Windsor series as the "90 degree V-8 small block".
The Clevelands were refered to by the factory as "335 series V-8".....there there was the FE and 385 series.

The factory Ford literature that calls their engines "big block" or "small block" is rather obscure to say the least....except for their performance catalogs that were straight from the factory....going back to the old "Muscle Parts" factory printings of the 1960's where they clearly distinguish between big block and small block.

Originally Posted by BOTLE FED RINO

did you not read how i said there is NO SUCH THING as a big block or small block...???????????
-it's all about the cubic inch dude, you have to re-think it

I read, did you not read? You still haven't answered my question, dude.

I guess by following your logic (there are no big or small blocks, only blocks), there's no Ford and Chevy...only cars, no US and China, only countries...as a matter of fact there are no races, only people. Hell, we can go a step farther and say there are no continents, only chunks of land...or get biological and say that people and animals are the same too, since we both eat, sleep, breathe etc. We could continue this until there's pretty much nothing bud...but most people's minds are more able to cope with things by dividing it up into manageable little chunks of information. Big block, small block, etc. Not too hard to understand once you re-think it.

So I'm still curious...what do you call a 455" windsor?

Oh, and welcome to FordMuscle...hopefully the rest of your posts are a bit more productive =).

Cris

Originally Posted by BOTLE FED RINO

there is NO SUCH THING as a big block or small block

Big block/small block is about the outside dimesions of an engine, who cares about the inside dimesions.

Originally Posted by BOTLE FED RINO

I LOST MY RIGHT FOOT WHEN MY TRANS EXPLODED BECAUSE OF A "PRO-STREET STYLE" NEUTRAL DROP WITH 14" SILCKS AND A SERIOUS "PRO-STREET" 460 ENGINE

Your signature line suggest to me you should not be applying for any rocket scientist jobs soon.
I really really have to know how you can be proud of such idiocy??????????

Originally Posted by Mario428

Big block/small block is about the outside dimesions of an engine, who cares about the inside dimesions.




Your signature line suggest to me you should not be applying for any rocket scientist jobs soon.
I really really have to know how you can be proud of such idiocy??????????

I'm betting the "botle fed" in this case has nothing to do with nitrous

I just have to chuckle at this. This was pretty good to read so far.

is1badford and mario428 are right. Its the physical aspect of the engine. Not cubes. Has been since i started building them in 1970.