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06-03-2004, 09:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This should be nasty!

http://loco4fomoco.com/clevor.html


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06-04-2004, 01:10 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You go, man. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_tup.gif[/img] Go to the Air Force surplus depot and buy a G-suit - you'll need it.
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06-04-2004, 08:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I had a guy in our club tell me... "Why put on 30 year old cleveland heads, they didnt work then, that's why they stopped making them!" Yeah right! everyone traded in there 428 cobrajets on pintos! Gas crunch! Go tell Yates the heads don't work! Can you imagine being one of those people, having to look back and say "What the hell was I thinking!" I'm keeping my gas hogg! that "clevor" will pull hard as hell won't it>? Forget the G-suit....I'll need a Diaper!


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06-04-2004, 12:10 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If you don't mind some input:

No sense in wasting a perfectly good 12.5:1 engine on a solid flat tappet camshaft. Get a nice solid roller and smooth out that power band all across the RPM range. A set of alloy Cleveland heads would make a big difference in both power and by cutting weight off of the front end of the car. This is not the average daily grocery getter. I'd take a closer look at the AFD 4V heads and expect to use an Edelbrock intake with a 4500 flange. Open your CFM to 1150 and see what happens. I don't think that you'll find an available tunnel ram intake manifold for a Clevor unless you go with a sheet metal piece.

Also, try a couple of solid roller camshafts to see if you can "blend" it a bit better. This cam is dumping at a bit over 6100, but some of that may just be the carburetion. You probably will want to consider running a bit more of both into DD2K to see how it responds.

Post a link to your .flw head flow file and your .dyn engine file. Maybe I can play around with it some and get a bit more total power out of it?

A 351W-based stroker is a very tight fit in the Mustang/Falcon/Ranchero chassis with barely enough room for the headers to take a very sharp turn when using a Windsor head. A Cleveland head will want a nice straight shot out of the port for at least 3" before turning down for the kind of power you're trying to achieve.

<U>Heidts</U> makes a complete front-end conversion kit that will provide ample header clearance.

The alternative is to do a straight Cleveland and buy "swap" headers that fit the 64-1/2-66 chassis.


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06-04-2004, 11:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Davis,
I posted my ".dyn" on the link in above post, just click the link and save as. I made the decision on "MII" frontend. So, I do have the shock tower and header problem solved! The roller version is about another $500 bucks, but oh well ...your right, might as well go the extra mile! thats how this whole thing started with my restoration! If I do this... I might as well do that! LOL! This truck WILL keep me broke!


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06-05-2004, 01:48 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I got suckered into looking at yet another fake dyno post[img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_frown.gif[/img]
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06-05-2004, 08:15 AM   #7 (permalink)
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06-05-2004, 08:28 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Hey guys,
Davis wanted the " .dyn " . You have to right click and save, then open it up in desktop dyno. You cant just click and view it, thats why I posted the pics on the same page. Did not intend to mislead anyone. If I'm missing something please let me know. Sorry.


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06-05-2004, 08:46 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Absolutely no "Desktop Dyno" or other simulations allowed
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06-05-2004, 08:51 AM   #10 (permalink)
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tbolt,
Sorry man. Didnt know...but now I do! hehe. Seems like it would be a cool way for people to throw dynos back and forth making changes to, and help get ideas across, ya know>? Just curious, why are they not allowed? I heard they come within 10 percent of true wheel dyno.


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