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03-05-2006, 07:59 PM
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Murff
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I've been reading some posts here and would like to post my combo here for your opinions / best guess-timates. This engine is almost finished, has not been fired off, will not see an engine dyno, might see a chassis dyno. The combination is my own so if it comes across as a little goofy there's no one to blame but myself.
351W, +030, 1976 block
Stock crank, .010/.010
Stock rods, polished on beam, balanced, fitted with full floating pins
KB Hypereutectic pop up pistons, 11.25:1
ARP Main stud kit
C.A.T. Main girdle
Melling HV oil pump
ARP Oil pump drive shaft
Cloyes double roller timing
Ford Motorsports SFI balancer
Ford roller bearing cam retainer
ARP Head studs
World Rousch Iron 200CC heads
2.02 / 1.60 Stainless valves
1.55 Dual valve springs, titanium retainers
Crane 1.6 aluminum roller rockers w/studs & guide plates
Delta Cams custom grind solid lifter cam:
Lift - I=575, E=572, Duration - I=308 E=317
Howards lifters, solid w/oil hole in face
Hooker Super Comp's 1 5/8"
Price Motorsports billet intake adapters w/ lifter galley cover screwed to block
Weiand 289/302 tunnel ram, modified
Enderle Bugcatcher mechanical fuel injection, #21 main, ported to intake runners, running on gas
Enderle 7GPM belt driven fuel pump
MSD Billet 'Ready to Run' ignition
C4 trans with Alto red clutches & valve body kit
Hughes 3500 convertor
TCI SFI flexplate
9" rear with 4.11 gears
Strange full spool, 33 spline
Dutchman 33 spline axles
29" x 10" x 15" slicks
Cal-Track traction control
Est vehicle weight 2900 lbs with driver & 8 gallons gas
Also 8 point cage and sub frame connecters
This is all in a '68 Falcon Futura.
Would any of you care to hazard a guess as to what kind of hp/torque I might see at the flywheel/rear wheels? How about et/mph?
This engine is 98% completed, just the final mods waiting to be done on the intake and then button up the top. I will not be changing any components at this time so you really don't need to tell me I need to change this or that. If you would like to tell me what you would do different if this was your motor then I'm Ok with that. Know what I mean?
Really looking forward to your responses.
Murff
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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Murff on 3/6/06 11:12am ]</font>
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03-06-2006, 12:54 AM
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1 Bad 88 GT
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The stall seems a bit low for the cam specs you listed.
BTW is there a reason for using a 302 intake, did it already have the FI on it?
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03-06-2006, 07:40 AM
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Murff
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I wanted to run the hat on a tunnel ram and as you probably already know, no one offers a tunnel ram for the 351W.
As to converter, this car will launch on the foot brake and more rpm than that and I believe I'd be driving through the brakes.
Murff
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Murff on 3/7/06 5:47am ]</font>
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03-06-2006, 06:26 PM
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1 Bad 88 GT
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<TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font size=-1>Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT SIZE=-1><BLOCKQUOTE>
On 2006-03-06 06:40, Murff wrote:
As to converter, this car will launch on the foot brake and more rpm than that and I believe I'd be driving through the brakes.
Murff
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As that may be, regardless what rpm you hold it at the line you will want your stall to be optimized. Simply adjust your staged rpm accordingly, you'll mat it at the light anyway so it won't matter.
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03-07-2006, 01:42 PM
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tonys10sec306
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475hp
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03-08-2006, 01:13 PM
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StangNinjak
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Hmm your running a HV oil pump in a 351 which is a no no. The gear size of the HV may cause you issues. Replace that oil pump with a regular one. It will be fine. If not, your going tick tick tick...B O O M
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03-18-2006, 11:11 PM
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sharpshot71
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What does the HV pump do to the 351? Is that Clevelands and Windsors, or just Windsors?
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03-18-2006, 11:33 PM
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Murff
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Yeah, I guess I'm actually a little curious myself. My knowledge with small inch Fords is to not use a high pressure pump but high volume is not a problem.
I would appreciate it if you would elaborate on the area of weakness that validates your statement. Is there an inherent flaw that I (and maybe others) are unaware of? Please be as specific as possible.
Thanks
Murff
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03-19-2006, 09:19 AM
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Motorhead
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Possibly twisting off the pump drive shaft or eating distributor gears/pins? Not sure, just venturing a guess.
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03-19-2006, 10:12 AM
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mstngjoe
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Whether or not a high volume pump is necessary is most times determined by bearing clearances and intended rpm.
Aside from the additional load, oil aeration is also of concern.
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