352 with dual exhaust

My 62 Galaxie has what I thought was a 352. The door tag and build sheet all indicate a 352 but now I am confused. The car has dual exhaust and my 1962 repair manual indicates that only the sunliners came with a 352 with dual exhaust. The 62 sedan and hardtops with a 352 should all be single exhaust according this manual.

Am I missiing something? Is the manual wrong or could the engine be a 390? And is there really no other way of checking other than to measure the stroke or bore? Are there casting numbers that would indicate anything?

Confused in St. Louis

Oh there's a little bit of casting numbers being thrown about today...

Check them out and compare your engine.

THe dual exhaust could have been special order...

Originally Posted by brentville

My 62 Galaxie has what I thought was a 352. The door tag and build sheet all indicate a 352 but now I am confused. The car has dual exhaust and my 1962 repair manual indicates that only the sunliners came with a 352 with dual exhaust. The 62 sedan and hardtops with a 352 should all be single exhaust according this manual.

Am I missiing something? Is the manual wrong or could the engine be a 390? And is there really no other way of checking other than to measure the stroke or bore? Are there casting numbers that would indicate anything?

Confused in St. Louis

HAY Mr.B,
Good question. I'd like to know the same thing because:

The guy (David) who stopped me at the Post Office the other day came by today and we went to see HIS 1964 Galaxie Four-Door, Hard-Top, Fast-Back "X" Code which is sitting at the place that did the inspection of the 3.14.

The guy THERE wants to buy it for $400.00, but can't come up with the money. I think that he wants to part it out.

Anyway, it is missing the VIN plate, AND the data tag on the firewall has been hammered flat so that there are no numbers discernible, it has also been bent down about 30 degrees and is all scratched, like it was purposefully defaced, which is pretty suspicious.

David was somewhat chagrined to find that it is supposed to have a 352cid engine (1964 "X" Code), because the guy who sold him the car told him that it was a 390cid.

It came with a bunch of extra parts (grille, headlight assemblies, a Motorcraft carburetor, a pair of 390 emblems, a Galaxie grille emblem, an extra horn ring, and some other stuff).

The body is in good condition except for the trunk which is rusted like the JPG that Gary put up showing his familiarity with rust, and the lower part of the left hind quarter panel is rusted out. It's missing some of the roof brightwork trim, and has no interior. Seats are gone, the rear door handles have been removed and the doors plained, but it has a NEW tinted windshield.

David started the engine, and it starts easily, and runs smoothly. It has an Autolite carburetor, on a cast iron manifold, dual exhausts (no smoke), triple pulleys but no belts to anything but a generator. It has an automatic transmission, and power steering.

I'm going to be taking some JPGs of it, and if the guy can't come up with $400.00 by next Monday, it is going to get towed over to my place and parked in front of the 3.14 till David figures out what he wants to do with it. He's torn between fixing it up, or parting it out himself.

I told David that the first thing that needed doing was to find out what the stroke was to determine the displacement of the engine.

The whole thing is another mystery that needs investigating.

So like Mr.B asked, is there any other way to tell whether an FE is a 352, or a 390 other than by measuring the stroke?

JC

Get the info off the intake, off the heads adn off the BLOCK that will allow us to tell you exactly what it is....

With a 390 intake it's a 390, because nobody put a 390 2V intake on a 352... Too damn much work for zo benefit... Etc... You get the drift dont ya?

I have the casting numbers off the intake. They are C2AE9425D. It's a cast iron 2 barrel intake which I sure think, thought was original to the engine.

It's a little too cold right now for crawling underneath to look for the #'s on the heads or block and I didn't see them readily from up top.
Maybe you can make something of the intake #'s In the same vein as why would you put a 390 2v intake on a 352 I would assume that you wouldn't put a 352 2v intake on a 390 block, so I guess the intake numbers should be definitive of the engine?

C2AE9425D

That would be a 352. I don't believe there was a 390 2V until 1967 or so.

So if it's a 352 the dual exhaust was a special order item? I think that makes the most sense. Or the '62 repair manual could just be wrong about not offering dual exhaust with the 352 engine.
I may not know a lot but I know it's got dual exhaust!
Thanks

They may not have offered dual exhaust but it could have been put on afterwards...
Exhaust pipes are so subjected to erosion that there are very few originals left out there.
I also support special order...

I'm beginning to feel like 'ol JC answering my own posts and soon I'll be quoting myself!

I say special order on the exhaust because the old log manifolds are original. They are old and crummy and the air intake/choke heat pipe connection is rusted and damaged. I'm sure the pipes from the manifolds have been replaced at some time.
I'm going to claim a special ordered, 4 door post sedan with a 352 with dual exhuast, PS, PB and no A/C. How rare is that!?!? lol

Originally Posted by brentville

I would assume that you wouldn't put a 352 2v intake on a 390 block, so I guess the intake numbers should be definitive of the engine?

A lot of people did just that back in the day. I can't count the number of people that I knew in the '60s who swapped a 4bbl intake and carb for a deuce because, A. They didn't want that big gas guzzling carb or B. "Junior just got his driver's license and I want to keep him slowed down." Remember, these Galaxies are approaching 50 years of age and all have been tinkered with and had parts swapped somewhere along the line. The ONLY way to tell for sure if you have a 352 or 390 is to measure the stroke. Even casting numbers can be wrong. Never consider anything an absolute.

BTW, V8 powered Sunliner ragtops all had dual exhaust as far back as the mid '50s.

Jan