Question: Is it possible...

The diffrence between your Convertible Hardtop and the other Hardtop is that when you roll your windows down there is NOTHING from front to rear, but on the Other 4 dr Hardtop there is a frame around each window....

I could be wrong but that's the diffrence to me....


FE

Have to agree with FE.

Oh no you don't have to! There's someone else that demands that you agree with them or you're on the list, that's definitely NOT me

I think a Hardtop is a non post car but a hardtop convertible is a non framed non post car. To me... I believe that's why it's called a Hardtop Convertible.

Originally Posted by FEandGoingBroke

Oh no you don't have to! There's someone else that demands that you agree with them or you're on the list, that's definitely NOT me

I think a Hardtop is a non post car but a hardtop convertible is a non framed non post car. To me... I believe that's why it's called a Hardtop Convertible.

I think it has to be more than that. My '69 Hardtop does not have window frames as well as many other 'Hardtops' from Ford and other brands.

Hmmmmm you got me then...

Originally Posted by JCAllison

I'll get another JPG of the other Gal tomorrow with the doors open...

Get the VIN and Body Code off the Patent Plate.

Stewing Over This One-

Here are the types of bodies for the 1964 FORD (MERC Similiar);

1964 FORD BODY TYPES

[SIZE=3]FORD CUSTOM [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3] 54E [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]4-Door Sedan [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3] 62E [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2-Door Sedan [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]FORD CUSTOM 500 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3] 54B [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]4-Door Sedan [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3] 62B [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2-Door Sedan [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]GALAXIE 500 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3] 54A [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]4-Door Sedan [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3] 57B [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]4-Door Fastback [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3] 62A [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2-Door Sedan [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3] 63B [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2-Door Fastback [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3] 76A [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2-Door Convertible [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]GALAXIE 500XL [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3] 57C [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]4-Door Fastback [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3] 63C [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2-Door Fastback [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3] 76B [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2-Door Convertible [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]WAGONS [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3] 71A [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]4-Door 9-Pass, Country Squire [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3] 71B [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]4-Door 6-Pass, Country Sedan [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3] 71C [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]4-Door 9-Pass, Country Sedan [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3] 71D [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]4-Door 6-Pass, County Squire [/SIZE]


[SIZE=3] Type 54 is a pillared sedan.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]Type 57 is a non-pillared HDTP.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]What you see in the background car are brite finish door glass frames (54A most likely). There has to be a B Pillar to align those door glass frames.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]On the Body Type 57, the door glass lies along the door opening frame and the rear door glass is aligned on the front door glass.[/SIZE]

Originally Posted by KULTULZ

Get the VIN and Body Code off the Patent Plate.

HAY Mr.K,
That is where this gets really "sticky"... There is no VIN Plate on the door, AND the plate on the cowl has been "pounded" flat, and then scratched so that the numbers are not discernible. And it is also bent DOWN at about a 30 degree angle from horizontal.

What you see in the background car are brite finish door glass frames (54A most likely). There has to be a B Pillar to align those door glass frames.

There is NO B Pillar on the bkgrnd car. I'll show that in the JPGs that I'll take today. Also, the rear door handles have been removed and planed over to make it look like a two-door.

On the Body Type 57, the door glass lies along the door opening frame and the rear door glass is aligned on the front door glass.

This is what the bkgrnd car is, BUT it has brightwork frames on the back of the front window, and on the front of the back window, the same as the 3.14, except the brightwork is WIDER on the bkgrnd car than on the 3.14.

Another bit of info... While I was there taking the JPGs, a black guy and a chicano guy came up and asked if I owned the car? Told them no but that knew the guy who did. They said that the owner of the shop told them that it was for sale for $700.00. The owner is trying to get $400.00 together to buy the car. And the owner of the car said that the owner of the shop told him that he had a buyer for $500.00! What a tangled we we weave when... well, you know the rest of that saying!

Anyway, it's a SAD old Gal (I could feel that when around it)

Remember what Gary said about drilling out the exhaust manifold bolt holes in the heads and putting in washered and nutted bolts? Well this one has had that done six of the eight holes! It has the "flat against the heads" "log" manifolds.

And it has a six bladed fan, because originally it had A/C (there is a condenser radiator in front of the radiator, hoses and the required pulleys, but no compressor unit.

The fan kept from getting to the nut on the nose of the crank with a 15/16th socket and breaker bar (or ratchet) to turn it to see what the stroke is.

Had the spark plug out and a rod inserted into No.5 cylinder, but couldn't turn the engine. So it is still unknown whether it is a 352 or a 390 of what? But it runs, and it is a sweet running little engine with an automatic transmission.

Also the spark plug porcelain on the No.5 cylinder was BLACK!

It has an AUTOLITE carburetor.

Anyway, thanks for the listing of body types... What a treasure trove of info...

JC

Originally Posted by JCAllison

That is where this gets really "sticky"... There is no VIN Plate on the door, AND the plate on the cowl has been "pounded" flat, and then scratched so that the numbers are not discernible. And it is also bent DOWN at about a 30 degree angle from horizontal.

There is NO B Pillar on the bkgrnd car. I'll show that in the JPGs that I'll take today. Also, the rear door handles have been removed and planed over to make it look like a two-door.

This is what the bkgrnd car is, BUT it has brightwork frames on the back of the front window, and on the front of the back window, the same as the 3.14, except the brightwork is WIDER on the bkgrnd car than on the 3.14.

OK, here is the clue. The car has been modified. The guy most likely cut out the B-Pillar attempting to make it into a HDTP. Not too intelligent as it has door glass frames attached to the door frame. Look for evidence that the pillar(s) have been cut out and maybe the openings repaired. There should be a tell-tale gap in the soft trim-compare the interior door panel to yours.

And it has a six bladed fan, because originally it had A/C (there is a condenser radiator in front of the radiator, hoses and the required pulleys, but no compressor unit.

The fan kept from getting to the nut on the nose of the crank with a 15/16th socket and breaker bar (or ratchet) to turn it to see what the stroke is.

Had the spark plug out and a rod inserted into No.5 cylinder, but couldn't turn the engine. So it is still unknown whether it is a 352 or a 390 of what? But it runs, and it is a sweet running little engine with an automatic transmission.

Also the spark plug porcelain on the No.5 cylinder was BLACK!

It has an AUTOLITE carburetor.

Anyway, thanks for the listing of body types... What a treasure trove of info...

This thing sounds like a parts car as the VIN has been defaced and the DMV will require a song and dance for a replacement title.

Black (carboned) spark plug porcelin is indicative of a leaking plug boot.

The BODY TYPE CODE LIST did not show as planned. Go here for a better view-

1964 Ford Identification

Listen, this will save you some money on a replacement carb. On the left fuel bowl will be some numbers.

1.08 identifies the carb as approx. 460CFM
1.12 approx 600 CFM.

Find one of the correct period marked 1.12 and use it for a core.

[quote=KULTULZ;1387091]
HAY Mr.K,
My sentiments EGGZACTLY.

OK, here is the clue. The car has been modified. The guy most likely cut out the B-Pillar attempting to make it into a HDTP. Not too intelligent as it has door glass frames attached to the door frame. Look for evidence that the pillar(s) have been cut out and maybe the openings repaired. There should be a tell-tale gap in the soft trim-compare the interior door panel to yours.

Check. Will get JPGs of that.

This thing sounds like a parts car as the VIN has been defaced and the DMV will require a song and dance for a replacement title.

The guy who owns the car has the title... I don't know what kind of S&D it would take, but I have to agree with you on this.

Black (carboned) spark plug porcelin is indicative of a leaking plug boot.

I didn't mean the porcelain on the outside of the plug. I meant around the electrode.

The BODY TYPE CODE LIST did not show as planned. Go here for a better view-

1964 Ford Identification

Haven't looked at this yet, but you KNOW I will.

Listen, this will save you some money on a replacement carb. On the left fuel bowl will be some numbers.

1.08 identifies the carb as approx. 460CFM
1.12 approx 600 CFM.

Find one of the correct period marked 1.12 and use it for a core.

I'm not looking to obtain this car. I'm just helping the fellow who owns it figure it out.

BTW, I believe I may have erred when I said it was an Autolite... Reason: He said that he rebuilt the carburetor that was on it, and he did it with a Holley kit... My bad. BUT not to worry... I have JPGs on a new website to show it!!!

Anyway, for JPGs of this car (and there are eight of them, so I'm not going to post each one here, but if you'll click on:

1964 FORD GALAXIE 500 PI

You can see this sad old Gal for yourself.

I hope this works.

Thanks again for your assistance.

JC

I always thought they referred to Hardtops as having no posts and Sedans as the ones having posts. Convertibles could not be considered 'hardtop' anything, except they have no posts, but would have to be the same as two door hardtops because they only have two doors.
Damn, now I'm really confused?!!