The Plot Thickens...

Originally Posted by 64GalaxieHTOP

I know i am about a couple hundred posts behind on this topic but what are we trying to figure out about this car? It is a 4 door and is supposedly a "P" code 390 solid lifter motor correct? but no vin plate or vin on the cowl to identify this. very very fishy. I beleive ford only stamped the vin on the cowl and had it on the date plate, but i am not sure if they might have stamped a vin elsewhere, someone on here may know? Does this car have any other options besides air and is this car an xl? Please excuse me i missed all the info on this car from the previous posts.

They were figuring out JC's car if HT or Sedan and then got sidetracked on this comparison vehicle.
I'm with you on the destroyed data plates etc. Probably stolen, I know no other reason for that to be done to it. I was thinking that there is a number on the front half of the frame somewhere but i might be thinking of another vehicle.

Deb

Originally Posted by 64GalaxieHTOP

I know i am about a couple hundred posts behind on this topic but what are we trying to figure out about this car? It is a 4 door and is supposedly a "P" code 390 solid lifter motor correct?

No. The "Mystery Gal" is owned by a fellow who has a title to a 1964 Galaxie 500 "X"Code 352cid, Four-Door Sedan. But the actual car has no VIN Plate, and the Cowl Tag has been pounded flat and defaced so as to be indiscernible.

but no vin plate or vin on the cowl to identify this. very very fishy. I beleive ford only stamped the vin on the cowl and had it on the date plate, but i am not sure if they might have stamped a vin elsewhere, someone on here may know?

Actually, the guy doesn't really care. He has a title, and a car, and other than sitting and looking at it, he hasn't done much else. He will know if it is going to be sold for $700.00 by Monday, and if it doesn't sell, he is (maybe) going to park it at my place till he figures out what he wants to do with it.

Does this car have any other options besides air and is this car an xl? Please excuse me i missed all the info on this car from the previous posts.

The car is NOT an XL. It has A/T, P/S, NO Brakes, A/C (but the compresser is missing), a new tinted windshield, and the body is good where it's good, BUT rusted out in the trunk, left rear fender, and rear bumper. He said he re-gasketed the carburetor with a Holley gasket kit, has an extra Motorcraft carburetor, another grille, another pair of headlights, a pair of 390 side emblems, a Galaxie grill emblem, a mismatched pair of rear-view mirrors (fender mounts), outside door handles (he plained off the rear doors), and there is no interior in the car.

The previous owner melted a couple of the front suspension coils to "rake" it. Did something to the rear springs to try to make it into a low rider. The present owner un-did what was done to the rear springs.

The FE started right up, and ran very smoothly, and sweetly with just a single clicking in the area of the No. 4 cylinder. It MAY not be the original engine, and I was going to check the stroke, but it has a six bladed fan, and I couldn't get a ratchet onto the nose of the crank to turn the engine 180 degrees.

Six of the eight upper exhaust manifold bolt holes in the heads have had the threads drilled out, and have washered, and nutted bolts installed to hold the "log" exhaust manifolds in place. It has dual exhausts (which is unlike an "X" Code).

I went out and sat with the old Gal for a while, took some JPGs. She is VERY sad. She doesn't deserve what has happened to her. I'm encouraging the guy to at least clean her up, and turn her back into a daily driver. Have offered to help.

To see other JPGs of her, click here:

1964 FORD GALAXIE 500 PI

If the guy who is trying to buy her comes up with $700.00 by Monday, she will most likely be parted out.

Anyway, I am sympathetic with the car, and the present owner seems to be an alright guy. I'd like to see done what is best for the old Gal.

JC

Originally Posted by ShotRod64

I'm with you on the destroyed data plates etc. Probably stolen, I know no other reason for that to be done to it. I was thinking that there is a number on the front half of the frame somewhere but i might be thinking of another vehicle.
Deb

HAY mon Deb,
It would be nice to know what her VIN is. But in all my checking on the 3.14, I've not had ANYONE mention another VIN other than on the door, and on the cowl.

BTW, the guy who sold the present owner the MysteryGal told him it was a 390cid, BUT this is the same guy (probably) who pounded the cowl VIN flat.

JC

I wonder although it's pounded flat if it wouldn't be visible from the back side?

HAY 64HTOP
Is your HTOP a Four-Door? And if it is, do you have a JPG of the sideview?

JC

Originally Posted by ShotRod64

I wonder although it's pounded flat if it wouldn't be visible from the back side?

HAY mon Deb,
Good question. Next time I go by it, if it's still there, I'll take a mirror and see if I can make it out.

JC

Originally Posted by ShotRod64

I wonder although it's pounded flat if it wouldn't be visible from the back side?

Thats possible, but it seems just to be a reg 4 door sedan, possible 352 or maybe 289 originally. But if it is a true p code motor, thats pretty rare, its sad that its been messed with. My car is a 2 door hardtop. There doesnt seam to be much of a mystery tho if the title is vin with a "x" code 352. Its just a 4 door sedan orginally with a 352, although u dont see a lot of 4 door sedans.

Originally Posted by 64GalaxieHTOP

if it is a true p code motor, thats pretty rare,

HAY Mr.64G,
It isn't a "P"Code.
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JC

yea i know that now i had some catching up to do on this topic, was that the mystery on this car, which motor it had?

Originally Posted by 64GalaxieHTOP

yea i know that now i had some catching up to do on this topic, was that the mystery on this car, which motor it had?

HAY 64G,
Actually, the Mystery was, and still is: Who is this Gal? We don't even know her VIN. It's all find-out-able, or maybe not... But it will take some doing. CIDs, where she came from, I mean, all we have now is her "title" and here presence. She's primer black now, but earlier in life she was a light blue, with red interior. And she was a pretty classy Gal.

The way I got involved was that the guy who put the inspection sticker on the 3.14 told the guy who owned the Mystery Gal, that if he saw me out and about that he should talk to me and maybe I could help him find out a thing or two about the old Gal. the guy finally saw me at the Post Office.

It's nothing "serious", it's just that she's one of a "family", and we here have possession of her relatives, if you see what I mean.

JC