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08-02-2008, 08:04 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: 289 engine diagram?

If you aren't going to rebuild I myself wouldn't use any kind of flush/cleaner in it. It would probably break up all kinds of old grease and grime build up in there and start clogging things up. Just run it and get it nice and warmed up then let it sit long enough that you think the oil has all drained down and then change it.

No need to change oil pans this way either til you are ready to tear it all down. Now this is just my opinion, others might have a different idea.

As for the diagrams at the dealer, who knows. This was way back in '84 so the car really wasn't that old at that time.

Where abouts are you? I was in the burbs of Frankfurt. Can't remember the town name but the other little area was Preungeshieme and I know that isn't spelled right. I can tell you my old address but for the life of me can't remember the village name. hahaha

Oh and not a bad looking Gal.

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08-02-2008, 11:51 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: 289 engine diagram?

looks alot like my gal, as far as looking like mud, you mean color or thickness.

Have you driven the car at all when you say mud you make me worry about a bad headgasket.

Also I have never done a timing chain on a 289 motor but I am pretty sure you dont need to pull the distributor.

As far as flushing it out yes people will disagree and I am one of them, but I would do it slowly over time not all at once...

Now that I think about it, how long was the car sitting before you started driving it, if it was a while there may be some things you want to check over.

So as far as oil, what color is it chocolate milkshake color or oil color but just thick, if its super thick I would do what you can to flush it out because its sounding quite nasty, but first what color and how thick is it, check your coolant what color is it also thanks alot!
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08-08-2008, 09:27 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: 289 engine diagram?

hey. sorry guys been real busy lately. perhaps "mud" was a poor choice of words. im going to go with chocolate milk. i Didn't mean the consistency of the oil as much as the color. the antifreeze is good...green. the car hasn't been sitting for all that long, thou when I have driven it, it takes a shot of starting fluid to turn over (fuel pump?) and deb im in queens ( right outside of manhattan) Side note, got new plug wires, took them home put them on and about an inch and a half of sparkplug is showing aswell as not going all the way on the new dizzy cap . I took the wires back and checked a few places and everyone came up with the same part#... Bosch( 09627). maybe i should just order from MAC's? still havnt tackled the belts btw..we will see what this weekend holds haha
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08-08-2008, 09:44 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: 289 engine diagram?

half of the plug showing is normal-- the cap dosent cover the whole plug --
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08-08-2008, 10:55 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Re: 289 engine diagram?

the ones on there now do?
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08-08-2008, 11:05 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: 289 engine diagram?

maybe just a change over the years my plug wires don't cover the whole plug.

Also as far as the oil. You have me even more confused chocolate milk and mud kinda look the same to me, but either way drain out that oil don't run the car at all. Sounds like you may possibly have blown head gasket, but first just drain the oil put in new oil as far as not turning over, do you mean starting you the actual cranking over the motor when trying to get it to start, could be a few things, bad starter weak battery to much timing.

Also to check for a head gasket pull your plugs and see what they look like try to get the piston near the top of each hole you look in to see what it looks like.

Dont mean to scare you but oil that looks like chocolate milk is usually a bad thing, but if the car was sitting for years moisture could have collected in there so, its still best to drain it all out.
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08-08-2008, 01:41 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: 289 engine diagram?

the oil looks very dirty. not thick. sorry to be misleading in my description the car drives fine aside from the occasional stalling out. Battery is new and starter is fairly new aswell. the car cranks but doesn't turn over, but if i spray starterfluid it starts right up.
as far as too much timing, maybe that is what i mistook the previous owner for saying instead of the timing chains? he might have said get the timing done? wish i kept his number! would you have to take off the distributor in order to do the timing because then that would make sense since he said he couldn't get it off.I guess ill have to get those plugwires back also...the fun continues
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08-08-2008, 03:08 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: 289 engine diagram?

What do you mean by cranks but doesn't turn over? You mean it just turns over and over and doesn't start up?

If it starts when using fluid in it maybe the fuel drains back in the line. Pump several times, my personal magic number is 3 times but sometimes if the shotrod sits a week or two then it's more like 6, and see if that makes a difference.

Might also try holding it pedal to the floor right in the beginning but soon as it starts get the foot off the gas.

The problem might be it just wants more fuel. Is it turning over kind of slow or normal kind of fast speed. If it's kind of slow it also might be your timing is the problem.

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08-08-2008, 03:36 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: 289 engine diagram?

no -you do not remove the dis to set timing
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