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05-16-2009, 08:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: repair manual.

I would like the link as well. I have a friend that is about to build a 312 and this would be a great help.
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05-18-2009, 09:15 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I'd be careful with this stuff guys, distributing copywrited material is a hot button issue with alot of websites and can cause some serious problems for them, since they can be held responsible. I'd take discussions like this somewhere else (email, instant messenger, etc)

Not trying to nag you guys, I've just seen this thing before!
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05-18-2009, 12:16 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Hey mon Deb,
Some time ago I had the occasion to learn book binding. And here a while back, I mentioned how to bind your manual to where the pages wouldn't come out (as they are not "bound" in, but rather just edge glued like a tablet).

If you want to make holes in the edge so that it will fit into a "loose leaf binder", get a NEW (meaning "sharp") 1/4" drill-bit and slowly, gently drill the holes in the proper places. It might also help if you could clamp the book down with a piece of wood on it about 1/2" from the edge.

HTH

JC
I was wondering if a drill bit would do the trick. I don't like the idea of making holes that weren't originally there but in the end it's a much better alternative than it being mangled and scattered everywhere. Darn dog already chewed a corner off one of the index pages. I guess he was putting ford where his mouth is. I do remember you talking about the book "binding" and remember in school making "scratch pads" using rubber cement as the binding medium on the edges. Which even in a note book type binder, being all glued together would also be a good thing.

I have it on CD also but it just irritates the gremlins outta me trying to find what I want on that CD. Nothing like leafing through a book to find what ya need.

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05-19-2009, 07:38 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: repair manual.

gentz pm me and send me an email or instant message
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05-19-2009, 07:51 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I was wondering if a drill bit would do the trick.
Hey mon Deb,
It has to be a good sharp drill.

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I don't like the idea of making holes that weren't originally there but in the end it's a much better alternative than it being mangled and scattered everywhere.
I can see it all now... Deb has a "resto-modded" Shop Manual!

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I do remember you talking about the book "binding" and remember in school making "scratch pads" using rubber cement as the binding medium on the edges.
It used to be that books were bound using "horse glue" (glue made out of horses! No, HONEST! Remember the old saw about horses being sent to the glue factory?). Now you can get 21st century technology, and instead of horse glue, you get an epoxy that doesn't get brittle to put on the spine of the book. All it takes is the proper clamping, and it's a lot like woodworking.

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I have it on CD also but it just irritates the gremlins outta me trying to find what I want on that CD. Nothing like leafing through a book to find what ya need. Deb
I know what you mean. I seem to know where on the pages I saw what I'm looking for, and can thumb through a book looking at that area. You can't do that with a CD!

Anyway, I got a quote back from SMS this evening. For the Carpet and Headliner and Windlace, it's going to be $558.00. I'm going to have to go for Seat Covers a bit later on. So for now, it's Navajo Rug, here I come!

Hope you and your manual are well.

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05-19-2009, 09:19 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: repair manual.

That isn't too bad of a price though but then also you then have to get someone to sew the covers and hard to say how much that would be. Would be great if you knew someone or someone that knew someone etc.

Navajo or Mexican blankets were made for seat covers I think! lol
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05-20-2009, 04:57 AM   #17 (permalink)
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That isn't too bad of a price though but then also you then have to get someone to sew the covers and hard to say how much that would be. Would be great if you knew someone or someone that knew someone etc.
Hey mon Deb,
The $558.00 for the Carpet, Headliner, and Windlace is a bit more than what they can be gotten for from other vendors, BUT I have to say that Doug Pollock at SMS has his sh!t together when it comes to the "proper&correct" materials. The samples that he sent are "spot-on", and the responses were virtually "IMMEDIATE".

The problem with getting the Seat Covers made is that my father had the seats recovered, and the guy who did it didn't make the replacements EXACTLY like the originals.

As I understand it, there was a piece of the same corrugated "Strapping" that runs vertically on the middle of the door panels, running from the front to the back of the bench, and then up the backrest of each seat right in the middle of where one would sit.

The replacements covers that my father had put on didn't have that strapping.

And then in about 1995, I had the front seat covers replaced, and the seat cover guy just duplicated what was already there.

The problem was that he used really "CHEAP" fabric, and it began to tear out at the seams and wear points in about six months. This guy is pretty good though. I watched him do the work and he has a great amount of enthusiasm and skill. I'll probably have him do the seat covers, seeing as to how he is in Livingston which is close by, but this time I'll be supplying the fabric, vinyl and strapping.

The next big thing is to see if I can get the "proper&correct" padding. What the guy in Livingston used was again, cheap, cheap, cheap. I'd almost rather use Carpet Padding instead of the foam rubber that is on it now.

The alternative to getting the material from SMS and having the guy in Livingston sew up the seat covers is to get them already made up from like Dearborn or Greg Donahue, but then what they have only come in certain colors, and are NOT "correct&proper", but rather are mostly all vinyl with piping, and pleats, ("tuck&roll" I think it's called), and are for XLs. And then install them myself using the instructions in the Shop Manual.

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What I have in mind with the Navajo blanket or rug is fastening it to the bottom of the bench, running it up to the bench, back across the bench, up the back of the seat, and then back to the front of the package try like a tonneau. This would be "temporary" till I can get the seat covers all worked out. The back seat would be left out making an area that runs from the back of the front seat to the rear lip of the trunk in which could be transported 2X4s and the like for when I build the Garage/Carport that I have in mind.

Anyway, it's all an ongoing project. What a FUN way to spend my "Golden Years", and when I'm finished with this "Vale of Tears", Ms. American 3.14159 will be the memorial to my efforts.

I fantasize that she'll miss me, but I plan on leaving her to someone who has an appreciation of her kind, and a great deal of expertise in the care and keeping of MoreDoors. Afterall, she is, so far, "One of a Kind", and if you think about it, already "world famous", thanks to Google Maps.

Maybe one day she can go live in a museum somewhere.

Hope you are swell.

JC
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