Gay Marriage

While I don't agree with Stanley's "solution", to hide your head in the sand and say it doesn't affect you is kidding yourself. Just ask the two ladies I know who's husband left em for another, um, er, MAN... The other side of this is the opening of pandoras box too all sorts of other stuff. Greg doesn't realize how close to the truth he is about the marrying your sister thing. It's the next step, and a very small one at that. The other is the issue of muliple wives/husbands, aka polygamy. If people of like sex can marry, why can't people have multiple wives/husbands. It's normal in other cultures...Finally, while it may not affect you at present, if you have kids, you may have to deal with it sooner than you think. Kids in highschools are already being "pressured" to come around to the "gay" way of thinking or risk being branded a social bigot or (gasp) "intolerant"...Clubs can no longer meet on school campus' in our state unless the school is willing to allow a gay club to meet on campus too.
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I've been trying to follow the gay marriage topic, but am still a little ignorant on some points. Does anyone actually know what rights gays will gain if they are married legally? Is it just tax issues or healthcare or.....?

I neither support gay trends or discourage them. I have to say if two people love each other you dont need a certificate to prove it to your partner. If you want to marry the same sex go for it. Just do not expect special rights which seems to be the trend not only with race issues but same sex issues. I do not believe in my heart that it is natural for same sex unions but I will not press my ideas on those that might think it is. This country has more pressing problems than this IMHO. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_frown.gif[/img]
And to all you [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_ghey.gif[/img] people out there stop whinning pay your taxes and enjoy life.

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There are a lot of reasons for and against, and all I can say is 2 of the greatest friends I have are a lesbian couple. If they want to be legally recognized as a couple (be it married or civil union), there is nothing about me that gives me the right to say its right or wrong. If God believes its wrong, then God will deal with them in the end. I believe it looks better upon myself in the end to be as good a person as I can to everyone regardless of their beliefs.
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The biggest thing I heard, (think it was on the radio), about concerns is if it's legal, and one of them is dieing, (ahem, ahem, cough, cough, (aids), [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_ghey.gif[/img], then the OTHER [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_ghey.gif[/img] doesn't have the right to make 'choices', (i.e. pull the plug,etc, etc), for their partner [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_ghey.gif[/img]

I'm sorry. I'm old school. Always will be. No religion involved, I just DON"T think it's right.

(unless they include sheep in with the mixed marriages). [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]

(got a shiney new pair of velcro boots I wanna try out)........legally..............[img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]

Legal remedies exist to resolve each and every issue that can possibly be brought to the table on Marriage.

I have dealt with several gay people in the work place and would consider one of them to be on my “List of desired People.”

What that means is simply this. I have had (for years now) a list of people in my mind that have been a very close part of my life in one way or another and “the list” means folks that … if say for instance … “I had to march into Hell tomorrow”, these are “folks I’d want with me to insure I/we could get back out.”

Anyway the Number Two person on that list is a guy that was commonly recognized as Gay … I didn’t care, so I never bothered to pry into it. The Number One person on the list is a Mexican and the Number Three person on the list is Female.

Queenie was pretty upset once she realized this list existed in my head and she wasn’t on it.

Anyway … my point is, I’m not sure I like the idea of Gay Marriage. I think in most of Societies eyes and God’s eyes, it isn’t right …

I have no problem with any other arrangement … civil union or whatever.

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I actually am for gay marriages. I can't believe a more conservative thing than for two people to want to commit themselves to each other for life in front of God and the law. It sure beats gays attempting to destroy the Boy Scouts for their beliefs.

And don't ever let someone tell you marriage is just a piece of paper. It ain't. Marriage is real and it makes a world of difference to the couple and the society. I say that as a man who finally married the most wonderful woman in the world after having shacked up with her for five years. I am SO glad we are married in front of society and God. The law is the least of it.

I am actually more against "civil unions" for gays than marriage, because civil unions is the institution which threatens marriage, by making marriage legally unnecessary.

My only real concern is exactly the one Greg said. If I can say that I'm for two same-sex people to get married because they love each other deeply and want to commit to each other, what DO we say to the brother and sister, mother and son, etc., who say they love each other deeply and want to each other? On what basis do we draw the line? I am not freaked out by gay marriage, but I am freaked out by incestuous marriage. But is the "Ick!" factor really basis for making law?

It doesn't bother me. I've had too many friends that, shall I say, aren't exactly all there? that have lived together as the oppisite sex does for many years. One 'couple' have been together longer than my first marriage of 10yrs. I know it isn't exactly what some would call 'normal', but if that's what they choose to do that's up to them. My very closest friend was gay and don't think I will ever run across a person as close as a soulmate as he was. Not mean soulmate as you meet the love of your life, but one that shows up at 3am in a laundromat 45 miles away and the only reason being he just thought of you and thought I would see what you were doing and at that time I had been thinking of him. Or even phone calls, even in Spain it seemed to work that way. No contact what so ever and he wasn't much of a writer and I was wondering where he was as he moved all the time and be darned if 2 hrs later the phone would ring. Now when the phone rings and nobody is there I just say it's Chris again as I think of him often. lol I just feel they are people too and they fall in love just like hetero couples so I don't see the big deal. I really don't know what the big political deal is over this as I haven't been watching it that closely but I know that some of the things they want are the same as we get when we are married. Even down to drawing on SS after one is gone. I do think that so many of them are, like someone mentioned, rushing into it just because they are trying to make a statement. That I don't agree with.
A year from now it will be divorces of probably more than half of the people getting married right now, and for the same reasons hetero couples do. Which is probably another advantage when it comes to dividing things up that they had bought over the years, house, cars whatever.
That's my opinion of it all.

Marriage is between a man and a women PERIOD!!! My opinion Jake[img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif[/img]

HankyJ...Greg might have a good idea.If someone's sister is 99-100% RED-HOT,what the heck![img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif[/img][img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif[/img][img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif[/img]
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