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12-19-2004, 04:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
F15Falcon
 
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Fabrication Tips Pictures: Notching Tubing

Every now and then you are going to have to notch a piece of tubing or pipe on one of your projects. You can do it with a hand held grinder and a lot of trial and error. You can buy one of the purpose built tubing notchers, but if you are only going to occasionaly use it, it may be cost prohibitive. Or you can do it with a chop saw. A chop saw you ask? Yes, I am going to show you how to notch tubing with a chop saw. You can also do it with a hack saw and a file if you are really bucks down.

The first step is to set your chop saw to 45 degrees, and make a cut about 1/3 of the way from the edge, then rotate your tubing 180 degrees and make an identical cut. What you will have when you are done is two miter cuts that will almost fit the piece of tubing you are going to weld to:



You now have to do a little work with a hand held grinder and round off the edges. You might have to do a little work with a file to fine tune the fit:


You now have a nice notched piece of tubing:


The fit is actually very nice, and I TIG weld notched joints like the one in the photos all the time:


Doing a joint at more than 90 degrees is the same, except that the second miter cut will go more towards the center of the tube as it sits in the chop saw, and it will make a larger cut:


Here is the finished 45 degree notch, and you can see the fit is very nice:


...and here is the finished TIG welded joint, I do these notches on everything from hobby stocks to 8 second drag race cars, and I can do them faster than using a tubing notcher, even though I have two of them:



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12-19-2004, 06:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Great tip, Tom...[img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_tup.gif[/img] I never thought of using my cutoff saw to notch tubing and have always been too cheap to buy a notcher. But I have spent many long hours with a hand grinder notching, checking, notching, checking....[img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_frown.gif[/img]

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12-19-2004, 06:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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nice work [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_tup.gif[/img]
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12-19-2004, 06:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thats nice work, thanks for sharing![img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_tup.gif[/img]
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12-19-2004, 11:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I have extremely slow dial upa and that was worth the wait! Thanks for thee great tip! Stu[img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_bow.gif[/img][img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_bow.gif[/img][img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_tup.gif[/img]
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12-20-2004, 12:02 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Very nice work! I was wondering how I was gonna notch my tubing when I install my cage real soon . Now I know!
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12-20-2004, 12:48 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Any tips on tig welding. I can mig weld pretty good, and my dad tought me from when I was youg to stick weld. I've never tried to tig before, and don't really know what to buy or use. Any tips would be nice. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_cool.gif[/img] By the way very nice weld on those joints. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_bow.gif[/img]
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12-20-2004, 12:55 AM   #8 (permalink)
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You almost lost me with the "chop saw", I hadn't heard that term in years.[img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img] Great job btw![img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_tup.gif[/img]

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12-20-2004, 02:52 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Nice Welds[img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_bow.gif[/img]
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12-20-2004, 02:57 AM   #10 (permalink)
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On 2004-12-19 23:48, smokey212 wrote:
Any tips on tig welding. I can mig weld pretty good, and my dad tought me from when I was youg to stick weld. I've never tried to tig before, and don't really know what to buy or use. Any tips would be nice. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_cool.gif[/img] By the way very nice weld on those joints. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_bow.gif[/img]
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My TIG welder is an old 250 amp Airco machine. it was bought new in 1970!! Today you can get good TIG machines for about $1400.00. All I can say about TIG is that the more you practice the better you will get. If you can gas weld, you will pick up TIG pretty easy. It takes quite a bit more skill than MIG as you have to hold the torch and manipulate the rod at the same time. I try to weld something everyday if I am not doing a big TIG job, just to keep in practice. Keep the tungsten sharp, use a grinding wheel for tungstens only and do not touch it to the metal you are welding. I also clean all the mill scale off any thing I weld by sanding both pieces to shiny clean metal, and then I wipe each piece down with wax and grease remover or laquer thinner. I also clean the welding rod and the tungsten each time I weld. I also use clean gloves that I use for TIG only. Cleanliness is very important to avoid contamination.
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