cool car for sale....

I like this one.

http://www.craigslist.org/eby/car/64033585.html

I like that. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_bow.gif[/img] There are so many cars I would own if I were rich....Oh well, I'm happy with my one.
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Those are so cool. I still have a spot for those old S-55's in my heart from a kid even though I rerely saw one. That doesn't seem too outlandish of a price considering the pix. The trim condition is key to keeping it sane. Paint can be redone, S-55 trim for these beasts is R-A-R-E!
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As I get older I find that the cars I used to think were pretty ugly or just average are nice cars now. Must be a side effect.[img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif[/img]
I spotted an older car today on the way to the school to drop my son off that I hadn't seen before. Thought it looked like a Chrysler product so on the return I pulled up to the house to check it out. It was a 67 Chrysler Imperial. It's not a Ford but if I spot an older car I can't resist driving by it if I can to check it out.
This is one I really love, a 63. I can handle red interior in a black car anytime. Just not red on red. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]

http://www.so-calgalaxies.com/featured_car_5.htm

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I love that car. I wouldn't do a single thing to it either, but just drive.

That's a keeper, for sure!
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To put one on the track, you had to have them on the street. No disrespect meant to anyone. but it is not something I would have owned then nor would I spend for one now. They were just too heavy and boxy to be classed as a muscle car. Of course the meaning of muscle car has changed to include anything and everything that housed a V8. JMO and I respect yours.
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To put one on the track, you had to have them on the street. No disrespect meant to anyone. but it is not something I would have owned then nor would I spend for one now. They were just too heavy and boxy to be classed as a muscle car. Of course the meaning of muscle car has changed to include anything and everything that housed a V8. JMO and I respect yours.

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retyler,

Of course the term "muscle car" has broadened over the years. I wouldn't say anything and everthing with a v-8 is a muscle car or even fast. My 64 galaxie has a 289 (with a blown head gasket now) and I wouldn't call it a muscle car. (yet) Drop a 427, 460 or even a hopped up 390 and a proper set of gears and I would most certainly say it is a muscle car now. I know back in the day (way before I was born) they started refering to post 64 cars as true "muscle cars" from the factory with factory 427's and such and were built with that in mind. Thats when they started going for speed. (lighter frames, thinner metal, bigger engines, ect) Thats fine, but I think there is something to be said for somebody that takes an old, boxy, heavy car and makes it go real fast. (Greg Cooks Battlestar comes to mind, fxcomet's liner and many more even though I don't really think of these cars as boxy more like sleek)

Hypothetical situation:

You pull up to a light in your post 64 "muscle car", whatever that might be (mustang, pontiac gto, vette, ect) Then a 64 galaxie station wagon pulls up next to you and has 289 emblems on the side. You think to yourself " I have a "muscle car" so I should be able to take that heavy beast of a grocery getter". Light turns green and the 64 station wagon blasts off and leaves you in your "muscle car" in the dust. You say to yourself "what the heck"
come to find out that the station wagon owner pulled the 289 and dropped a 460 in the car. You just got smoked by a grocery getter. I would now call the station wagon a "muscle car" out of respect.

Thats jusy MY opinion and I totally respect yours. I do understand what your saying about the term "muscle car" being labeled on any car from that period. When I tell people I drive a Galaxie people automatically say "oh a muscle car". I am just saying that in my opinion any car can be made into a muscle car if it is fast enough. Ok, well not any car, but most of them.

Just another quick question. Would the term "muscle" refer to how fast it goes or how much displacement the engine has. My friend has an old 60's Alfa Romao "Julia" I think. It has a 4 banger in it, but is a high compression race engine and hauls ass. Would this be a hotrod or muscle car or just a race car?


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after further thought, maybe hotrod or hotrodded might be a better term for a passenger car turned into fast/race cars.

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No, no, no, no,no. You miss my point. In the sixties the Fast and Furious that came out of Detroit was not called 'muscle cars' at the time. I don't recall seeing any 289 equiped stationwagons converted to 460's. Althought there were a lot of 'Hot Rods' I myself had a '56 Chevy with a 389 tri power stuffed in it. I couldn't afford one of the 'big boys'. I don't know when the Goats, Shelbys, Camaros, Roadrunners, ........ first got the name Muscle Cars. I think that was a 90's term or maybe the 80's. who knows? But, who ever coined the phrase was referring to a particuliar group of cars that were born in the early sixties and died off in the early seventies with the gas shortage and they all came out of Detroit (or somewhere up there) and were built for a particular class of people. Baby boombers that had a thirst for racing and speed. Any school teacher, or doctor, or electrician or mill worker, truck driver, could buy a car on Saturday and win at the track on Saturday night. Depending how deep your pockets were. It had nothing to do with your mechanical skills. It was incredable the number of choices we had for 'factory fast cars'.(except for Ford). You didn't have to transplant. And they were all street legal and ran on pump gas and you could drive them to church on Sunday morning which we did.
When you stuff a big block somewhere it didn't belong it then becomes a ' hot rod'. The Jaguars, Alfas, Sunbeams, Cobras, Triumpths, Deanos and all the other super high speed road racing cars is what I refer to as sport cars in them days, they're probably refered to as something else now. I've never heard of Indy cars refered to as Muscle cars even though they were running at 230MPH. A '61 Falcon 6 was not a muscle car. A '61 Ford Starliner with a 406 was and so was a 409 Chevy. A '69 Ford Station Wagon with 429 or a 460 (if you could get one) was not a muscle car. A '69 Mustang Super Cobra Jet with a 429 was and so was a Roadrunner with a Hemi. Does any of this make any sense???????? Do you get my point. The bottom line is I see a lot of old cars for sale, especially on Ebay, and the traders that are so loosely referred to as Muscle Cars and it is ticking me off. Just kidding . Call a spade a spade.
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Ok, I see what you are saying. You don't like it when the term "muscle car" is used loosley to make a sale of or describe any 60's period car. I kinda misread what you were saying at first and I agree with you that the true "muscle cars" are the factory fast vehicles.

I was just thinking that at some point a hotrod is not just a hotrod but considered (to me) a muscle car as well with the right setup.(450 - 500 hp) Maybe I just think like that because I wasn't alive in the 60's

I still think the Merc is a cool car except I would call it a good cruiser and not really a muscle car.