I hate car dealers (rant)

I was in the process of buying an 05 f-250, and I told the guy at the dealership I was going to take it. This was last night, and I told him I would get me stuff together from my bank and send them a check today. So I call there today and the guys says oh, we sold that truck last night. Somebody walked in and paid sticker for it on the spot. So I'm sitn' here thinking what the hell, I told you I wanted this truck and just because someone came in and gave you a few extra hundred than what I was gonna give you you sell it out from under my nose. Anyway that truck was set up just like I wanted it. Already lifted with tires, dvd player, leather, everything. I hate how they can just say "sorry your **** of of luck."

First rule of bagaining....bring cash!

Anyone that trusts a car salesman...better be a cop or lawyer.

As you found out, they are, by definition, scume of the earth...even the few good ones need to be watched, closely.

As someone who works for a Ford dealer, I can tell you that they are not all like that. Now I don't know if purchase laws vary state to state, but here we have a purchase contract. If the contract is signed, it becomes a binding document, and any dealer that want to keep you as a customer will want to honor their contract.

Although I'm not in sales (I'm the Svc Mgr), I can tell you that any dealer willing to do this to you isn't worth your time. If this is how they treat you now, imagine how it will be after you buy something!

Bottom line: A good dealer will do what it takes to treat you right. Good dealers are out there.
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depending on where you are, a hand shake as a close to a contract is as good as a signiture.

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Sorry to hijack thread for a minute- need to talk to dealers...

Wisconsin...lemme guess- you probably saw like 1 or two mustang GTs last year, none yet this year? I got one on order and have 'discovered' how allocation works...a priority 10 allocated sold order up north dont carry the weight of a low priority stock order allocated in texas/florida...Ive waited 6 weeks- still no vin, yet cars ordered down south 2 weeks got vin same day, getting built next week, likely on ebay the following week if it dont get sold by then... if you work for a mid/small dealer (by floridas scale) please hop over here and toss a vote in this poll:
http://www.blueovalforums.com/index.php?showtopic=20232

I'm spending a lot of time pestering ford about this BS- tired of getting kicked out of line by florida dealers...allocations should be at least EQUAL even if number of allocations is biased to the sunshine belt- its killing dealers up here and pi$$ing off a lot of northern customers...
last I checked Ohio to Florida exchange rate was 1:1
Anyone that works for 95% of the dealers out there or ever thinks they might want to order a car thru ford, please chime in over there- thanks-

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back to the 'I hate car dealers':
one dealership that really got under my skin did so by offering to help- they could get me a Mustang GT 'reconfigured stock order' to whatever I wanted for 5 over sticker- well thanks, but...anyway a little after talking to sales guy, was talking to GM- he mentioned a dozen cars backordered for 6-9 months that probably would 'never get built'. Got to thinking a little and - sorry but those people that heard that story and saw 'stock' ordered cars at over sticker on the floor were looking at a more expensive reconfiguration of their order- dealer has say 10 allocated cars, stock are SUPPOSED to be priority 80(unsold- for the lot), ordered cars start at code 40 and go down- lowest numbers built first, 10 is highest priority dealer can issue. Dealer trades can be done sometimes, but if a stock order shows up- somethings fishy.
If somebodys ordered car didnt get built and dealer is getting stock, he bumped priority back on your order and is acting like its fords fault.Priority is set by the dealer and subject to change- they dont 'HAVE' to tell you. I found 2 dealers that 'couldnt get me one'- didnt like answer but it was honest- fair enough...ordered thru one of them. Sent kinda nasty letter to the dealer mentioned above...never is a long time, but never is the next time I consider buying a car from them, there are a lot of good dealers around, some even have great service departments, but you gotta watch, ask around. And if you want a car, be sure you got a receipt on at least a deposit- then noone can unknowingly sell it out from under your salesman (he might not have known). not all salesmen are handshake quality, but even if they are, shoulda put something on paper in case one of the others arent, or might unknowingly sell your car- my guy said put anything down for a deposit, that way the order is claimed, no way of any mixups.
Good news is right now around here trucks are flying into dealers- mine got ALL the trucks he ordered for the year(ouch) 2.5 weeks after they were ordered. told me he got a 350SD in special ordered in 3 weeks- you shouldnt have to wait long...with gas this high, if you can wait a while you might get a rebete or something- I'm kinda guessing there will be a glut of trucks on the lots if gas stays here.

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they wouldn't have sold it if you would have put down a deposit, we[the dealer i'm work at] usually accept a check for $100. We don't cash or deposit that, intill you sign the paper work, and that deposit is just towards your down payment.
I think our general manager is a sneaky tricking b@$+@rd, half the customers like him[those who buy usually] the other half hate him. Most employees can't stand him, especially ME. But he would not sell a vehicle for 5 grand more then sticker, if someone had 50 bucks to hold it.
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You are right about the Mustang allocation. We have gotten a total of three since the new model was rolled out. Two were GT's and one v-6. Up here in the frozen north, we just don't sell that many. I asked out Sales Mgr when we would be getting a Mustang convertible, and I was told we lost out convt. allocation because we ordered an Escape Hybrid!

I would also like to get one of the Ford GT cars, but I was told we have a better change of winning the lottery than getting one.

I remember when the new Thunderbird was rolled out, we actually got one, and the owner of our dealership refused to sell it over sticker, even though many were doing so at the time. Now that the "newness" has wore off, you can find them just about anywhere if you really want one.

The moral of the story is the dealers who are selling the mustang at a premium will pay for it in the long run--its hard to be loyal to a dealer that has no scruples.
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Why didnt you DRIVE THE VECHICLE HOME.

Its commen practice for a buyer to driver the vechicle home BEFORE the final papers are signed.

Smokey, I don't know if that was Jones or Palmetto that you were dealing with, but I'd have to agree with your low opinion of them. As far as process goes, I'd have left a check for $100 myself. Sorry you didn't get that truck...but, heh,everything happens for a reason. I'm sure you'll find another better truck for less money real soon. Keep your chin up! [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]

Robert
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Many years ago on a very snowy Saturday, my son and I went to look at a '66 Mustang that was for sale. It wasn't worth what they were asking but on the way home we stopped by this new car dealer that had cheap used cars on a second used car lot. Since I was in need of a car, we stopped in. They had this really nice '83 Cougar with bucket seats, console, V-8, power everything and it ran really nice! I negotited a deal for $850.00 with the salesman. We shook on it and I told him I was going home to get the money. I went home got my money and the wife to drive me over and when we got there the salesman acted like he never saw me before and he wanted te renegotiate the car. I told him I wanted to see the manager who came out and backed up his guy. We left very mad!

My wife suggested we send her sister over on Monday to see what she could do. She could sell ice to an Eskimo! She goes over and negotiates the car to $800.00 with a different salesman and gives them a deposit. I go back with her and sign the papers. I drove away with the car I wanted and saved 50 bucks! And the salesman I spoke with got nothing! What a nice feeling!

Later!
Mr. Ed

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