Too young, or wrong area?

Originally Posted by tbirdchick

Perhaps I used the wrong words or should've given an example, but no, I'm not confusing Pro Street with a Restomod. I have a friend who put 7-8 years and $30K into a '79 Pro Street Thunderbird....awesome car, homemade EFI on a Tunnelrammed 460, wheelie bars, shaved door handles, an '89 T-Bird dash and door panels and a million little tricks you would never notice. But this car is 100% impractical as a driver. He's had it on eBay twice and it never brought over $4000. So much for Pro Street...

The Restomod movement is fine, but it's just gotten stale because everybody builds the same cars. Please don't think I'm trying to hurt anyone's feelings, but a red Restomodded '67 Mustang is generally the same as a million others. They're 'safe' because everybody loves Mustangs. I do too. I'm an equal opportunity insulter.., but it's the same deal with Galaxies, Fairlanes, Falcons, Comets or what have you. Old time Hot Rodders always prided themselves on oneupsmanship and building something different. So why not take a '65 Rambler American hardtop as an example, put a MII front end under it, install a Ford powertrain of your choice with a rear disc brake rear, build a coil over suspension for all 4 corners, put on the wheels of your choice and add your own finishing touches. It would take some skill to do it, but none that most here couldn't learn and by being inventive with used parts, this car could be built for the same money as a Mustang, or maybe less. This is one reason that I admire my buddy F15 (Tom). He's his own dog, builds his cars based on simple principals but are definitely different! Granted, he has more shop equipment than most, but 99.9% of the things he shows us don't require that much machine work and if you own a rod, you should have a machinest friend.

I'm taking a 'go my own way' track with my '64 Ford Tudor. Remember, this car is secondary to my dirt tracker. I've got 2 460s, one with DOVE heads and an EFI 302 HO complete with computer and wiring from a '92 Lincoln LSC sitting in my garage. But I'm keeping the original 223 6 under the hood. Why? Just because I like it. I've got a set of high lift rocker arms for it and can fab up a 2bbl. intake and header in my shop without much grief. A 300 Duraspark distributor swap is in the works with a GM module to fire it. If I want to swap mills someday, it'll likely be for a 300 6. I've got a T-Bird disc brake setup here, but I'm going with just a dual pot M/C for safety until further notice because drums work just as well as ever. I have a few suspension changes planned, but with parts I have lying around. I've got some wheel choices too, all of them steel.

As for the exterior, what is not Rustoleum Semi Gloss black will be sprayed with Rustoleum clear to protect the patina. This car is NOT a rat rod, but *I*
enjoy keeping this car looking close to it's roots. My killer stereo is the Cherry Bomb on the end of my tailpipe.

Is this car "safe" as in a crowd pleaser, heck no! Do I care,,,same answer. I don't particularly enjoy cruise nights...sitting in a lawn chair next to a car is boring to me. But I do enjoy driving it which is the purpose of a fun car. I don't expect anyone else here to copy my ideas or understand my motives anyway.

Jan...doin' my own thing.

In many ways what you are doing is restomodding. A restomod is in many ways whatever you want it to be. You take something old and modify it into something better, safer, and a little (or a lot) more modern. All these cars we are seeong in the mags are well past the restomod stage. The Ring Brothers cars are NOT restomods and neither are Chip Fooses cars. Those cars have move into the realm of Street Rod. The cars have gone the way of the 27 T, 32 Lo-Boy, 36 Vickie, 56 Effie, etc.,....

As for the Rambler comment, if you want to be different then drop in a 512ci stroker tall deck 401 because too many guys have already dropped in Hemis, SBCs, and EFI 5.0s into many a AMC. Heck if you really want to be different build a 67-72 2dr hardtop Ambassador or 71-73 2dr hardtop Matador (not the ugly 74+ Matador Coupe)....those cars are few and far between.

Originally Posted by xafalcongs

Heck if you really want to be different build a 67-72 2dr hardtop Ambassador or 71-73 2dr hardtop Matador (not the ugly 74+ Matador Coupe)....those cars are few and far between.

Or do a Torino.... ;-)

Originally Posted by 72BlackOnBlack

Or do a Torino.... ;-)

Better yet, a Montego. 72 Montego GT is one sweet car....and you rarely if ever see those at an All Ford show.

Originally Posted by xafalcongs

In many ways what you are doing is restomodding. A restomod is in many ways whatever you want it to be. You take something old and modify it into something better, safer, and a little (or a lot) more modern. All these cars we are seeong in the mags are well past the restomod stage. The Ring Brothers cars are NOT restomods and neither are Chip Fooses cars. Those cars have move into the realm of Street Rod. The cars have gone the way of the 27 T, 32 Lo-Boy, 36 Vickie, 56 Effie, etc.,....

As for the Rambler comment, if you want to be different then drop in a 512ci stroker tall deck 401 because too many guys have already dropped in Hemis, SBCs, and EFI 5.0s into many a AMC. Heck if you really want to be different build a 67-72 2dr hardtop Ambassador or 71-73 2dr hardtop Matador (not the ugly 74+ Matador Coupe)....those cars are few and far between.

*Uh...I just googled the Ring Bros as I'd never heard of them. You see, I don't read mainstream hot rod mags or watch 'car' TV. The interest in curent trends just isn't there My reads are Old Skool Rodz and Car Culture Deluxe, occasionally R&C along with the oval track mags when they feature east coast dirt modified stuff. On the RB's site, I was faced with "billet"..Uggg!, hood hinges for over 600 bux (!) and one of the ugliest Mustangs that I've ever seen. Even though my best friend's last name is Foose, a distant relative who worked for Sam (a noted Kustomizer in his day) as a sand boy in the '80s, my tastes fall far from Chip's stuff. I like old cars which "seem" old built with homebrewed or junkyard parts that are a blast to drive. My taste run more toward Bellflower tips, Chrome reversed wheels with tires with plenty of sidewall, blue dots, tube grilles (or homemade) if I'm going to spend a few dollars.

Yeah, I'm a strange older broad but I've been rodding and racing since the late '60s. You ought to see what I just cut up for use as a a body on my modern DIRT modified...When I get the panels fitted, I'll show everyone.

Jan...different strokes

there are a whole hell of a lot of assumptions and gross generalizations on here...
as a 22 year old guy, I can say I've never had my "mommy and daddy" buy me a goddamned thing. every car I've owned have been paid for with my money. I've worked since I was legally able to, and any work I could do to my car, I did it. when I rebuilt the engine in my 89 mustang 5.0 the only help I got was with the machining of the block. I drive a 95 integra, because it's damned good on gas, better than any V8 could ever dream of. I despise the "ricer" culture of today. since I live in Fresno there's so many hmongs every other car on the road is some ****box honda with a fart can, rattle-can primer and/or different colored body panels, a grandfather clock-like tach duct taped to the dashboard, driven by some retard who couldn't even fathom what a 12 second car feels like so 16 seconds feels fast to him. other than my integra and my first car, a '71 datsun 240z, all of my cars have been american. 87 el camino, 88 tbird, 89 mustang, 90 taurus sho, and now my 65 mustang. the mustang i got for $1900 and it's a salvage title. any clean title mustang goes for $5k and up around here. I also own a Buell motorcycle, so obviously I love torque :p

as for the guy who refuses to understand text messaging...some people work, some people are in class, some people are just busy doin somethin else to be sitting there on the phone. so you send a text message, gets your point across in a few words and that's that. it's basically like PMs here, except with phones. you can hold a conversation over a long period of time without wasting minutes on your phone. I was talking with someone all day yesterday while i worked on the car. sure as hell couldn't have done anything with the car while holding the phone. also, you might have something that's just too short for a phone call "hey we're at so and so's place come chill with us" takes all of 5 seconds to write and send, doesn't waste any minutes, and if the person is busy they'll get it when they get to their phone.

we don't text message just to piss off old people :p

Originally Posted by zpyro

there are a whole hell of a lot of assumptions and gross generalizations on here...
as a 22 year old guy, I can say I've never had my "mommy and daddy" buy me a goddamned thing. every car I've owned have been paid for with my money. I've worked since I was legally able to, and any work I could do to my car, I did it. when I rebuilt the engine in my 89 mustang 5.0 the only help I got was with the machining of the block. I drive a 95 integra, because it's damned good on gas, better than any V8 could ever dream of. I despise the "ricer" culture of today. since I live in Fresno there's so many hmongs every other car on the road is some ****box honda with a fart can, rattle-can primer and/or different colored body panels, a grandfather clock-like tach duct taped to the dashboard, driven by some retard who couldn't even fathom what a 12 second car feels like so 16 seconds feels fast to him. other than my integra and my first car, a '71 datsun 240z, all of my cars have been american. 87 el camino, 88 tbird, 89 mustang, 90 taurus sho, and now my 65 mustang. the mustang i got for $1900 and it's a salvage title. any clean title mustang goes for $5k and up around here. I also own a Buell motorcycle, so obviously I love torque :p

as for the guy who refuses to understand text messaging...some people work, some people are in class, some people are just busy doin somethin else to be sitting there on the phone. so you send a text message, gets your point across in a few words and that's that. it's basically like PMs here, except with phones. you can hold a conversation over a long period of time without wasting minutes on your phone. I was talking with someone all day yesterday while i worked on the car. sure as hell couldn't have done anything with the car while holding the phone. also, you might have something that's just too short for a phone call "hey we're at so and so's place come chill with us" takes all of 5 seconds to write and send, doesn't waste any minutes, and if the person is busy they'll get it when they get to their phone.

we don't text message just to piss off old people :p

First, I'm sure not a guy as my username and real name should tip you to.., and yeah, I'm kind of an old broad...57 going on 18. I appreciate your explanation of a reason for texting as my experience of being around it are folks sending jokes back and forth at the dinner table or during a conversation and simply being annoying. I use a prepaid cell which charges me to send and receive text messages, so I've told everyone not to send me any.

Surprisingly, we're alike in some ways. NOBODY ever bought me a car. I got darn near a fulltime job in HS, saved my pennies and bought my own. I've worked on cars since I was just a little twerp and learned 99% of my skills by doing or having an older person occasionally showing me a trick or two. I don't care about the ricer culture (Kids doing anything mechanical is cool) other than the fact that these kids are building cars that weren't manufactured by American owned car companies.

See, at least with me there aren't as many misconceptions as you might've thought.

Jan

Hey I feel your pain! I'm in central Arkansas, it's not any better here. If you want to hang out with car guys & gals, you gotta go to the races on weekends. Other than that, nothing. Very few car shows, one swap meet a year over at Petit Jean Mountain, no auctions...nothing! It really sucks because I personally like to get out to car shows and cruise nights. We are, however, lucky to have the Power Tour 2008 to start in Little Rock though. I won't miss it! I probably won't be able to cruise, but I'll at least go down there to check out the vendors and cars before they leave.

Originally Posted by tbirdchick

First, I'm sure not a guy as my username and real name should tip you to.., and yeah, I'm kind of an old broad...57 going on 18. I appreciate your explanation of a reason for texting as my experience of being around it are folks sending jokes back and forth at the dinner table or during a conversation and simply being annoying. I use a prepaid cell which charges me to send and receive text messages, so I've told everyone not to send me any.

Surprisingly, we're alike in some ways. NOBODY ever bought me a car. I got darn near a fulltime job in HS, saved my pennies and bought my own. I've worked on cars since I was just a little twerp and learned 99% of my skills by doing or having an older person occasionally showing me a trick or two. I don't care about the ricer culture (Kids doing anything mechanical is cool) other than the fact that these kids are building cars that weren't manufactured by American owned car companies.

See, at least with me there aren't as many misconceptions as you might've thought.

Jan

I don't typically notice usernames :p

I can respect guys who can take a car and modify it to make it look cooler, go faster, etc.

I can't respect this, or anyone who even thinks for a second it's in good taste




etc etc, ad nauseum. what's even worse are the incredibly annoying fart can exhausts they put on the cars, and THEN they have the nerve to think they're fast. probably because they're just ignorant and have never been in a vehicle that actually IS fast, and can only compare their cars to...their cars, but it still grinds my gears when I hear these idiots racing down the main boulevard every weekend night, and see stories of them crashing and hurting/killing innocent people. sure, people do that in sports cars too, but around here it's 10000x worse with ricers.

and what's even WORSE is I drive an Integra. bone stock automatic, slow as hell, yet I still get retards trying to race me and cops harrassing me because I drive something the ricers drive

/rant