Trying To Figure Out The Gas Game

Originally Posted by PaceFever79

I often find this saying fascinating; it gets thrown around a lot; it implies that whomever is willing to use the most force, wins. While that is the law of the jungle, it is not the ideal of a modern society.

not trying to start a debate or anything just my opinion, but we are all creatures and we all have basic instincts, that basic instinct is to prey on those less capable than ourselves, not on person on this board who has had to work for a living can say that if they were in the position to make a killing off of somethng would not snatch the opportunity up. im not saying it is right or wrong it just is the way we are. "Those that can do, those that cant whine"

honestly i dont see the gas prices rising as nothing more than people in general adapting and evolving, changing its inevitable.

When i started working i was making 5.50hr minimum wage(i know alot more than some of you when you started) and now minimum wage since then has gone up to 8.75 or something along those lines(here in washington state) in the same amount of time i have seen gas go up the exact same amount give or take some change. I started driving about the same time and was paying between .99-1.39 now gas in my neck of the woods is 4.19 or so, thats a difference of 2.80, the minimum wage is 3.25 difference. see a corilation? as our base pay goes up everything else goes up accordingly.

At least this is my thoughts.

Granted nowdays i make alot more than minimum wage so it doesnt hit me as hard as say those on minimum wage but even back then my outgoing was in essence the same as it would be now if i was on minimum wage.

Dude your from washington what part? I used to live there for a few years In renton right near boeing at lake washington. We have quite a few members in that area.

Originally Posted by dbu8554

Dude your from washington what part? I used to live there for a few years In renton right near boeing at lake washington. We have quite a few members in that area.

i work in renton, just off lind ave. i live in lake tapps. yah i love fords and am glad i am a member here

Originally Posted by Calspec

Pace: I'm not too sure how modern our society is. I remember my Dad saying in the USSR nothing could be printed or spoken without approval of the government. Today the press is restricted from reporting what is going on in the war. If you write a book, you may have to testify in front of congress. Even post here will be deleted if they are deemed to inflammatory for the readers. I guess the powers to be know whats best for us.

As for the USSR, it has not changed much since the fall of communism. A friend of someone I used to date is from St Petersburg, has been here in the states for 6 years. I absolutely LOVE the stories that she tells. When she left 6 years ago, things had not changed much...even though the media wants you to believe that things have. Sure, there are more freedoms but you still have to be careful of what you say. Just like the USA. Now they want to take away our firearms. Over my dead body...or someone elses...because I will always have them even if they're illegal. Same for my freedom of speech. I say what I want when I want...sure I am careful and respectful of others..but you get the idea. But nowdays we are not supposed to speak what is on our minds. We are expected to say "nice" stuff...be politically correct and all that crap. Remember the movie "Demolition Man" (1993, wesley snipes, sandra bullock, Sylvester Stallone)...that is what our country is coming to.

The gas game....(back on topic)...there is something to the prices. Locally, on this side of town, 87 octane (regular) is 3.97. In the middle of town it's 3.78. Same city, same county, same state so taxes are ruled out. I will, and always will believe that oil and gas companies are gouging everyone, at least until someone proves me wrong. They are guilty until proven innocent....just like when you are questioned by the police about something. They want to place the blame FIRST. At least around here, anyway but this is the "south" where everything is done bass ackwards.

Mavman: I'd say you've pretty much hit the nail squarely on the head.

Gas here is running $4.09-4.15 for reg unleaded, add that to the game

I would have to say it depends on the station and what type of deal they have worked out with the oil companies, all the chevrons in my area have the same prices, all the terribles have the same prices 7-11 vary alot but maybe because some are privately owned.

Ah yes, this is looking and smelling like Enron all over again, except it's much bigger in every aspect, including the crash. Like Enron, the key felons are Wall Street, BushCo, and the Industry. As money is taken out of failing bank stocks it's funneled into oil stocks driving up the stock price. What good is operating a production / distribution monopoly if you can't manipulate the supply and cash in on geopolitical uncertainty. Particular scrutiny should be paid to ICE - Inter Continental Exchange, which accounts for a significant portion of the key trades and price setting points of the oil market. ICE is designed to operate beyond the scrutiny of regulatory mechanisms and is opaque to we outsiders. No surprise there. Ken Lay is laughing, wherever he is?