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09-07-2005, 08:34 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Great progress pics my friend! [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_bow.gif[/img]

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09-08-2005, 10:48 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Amazing - where are you in Utah? (you might have already told me but I forgot . . .)
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09-08-2005, 12:19 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Thanks guys

And 69 you did ask [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif[/img]
I live in Hooper about 15 minutes from ogden, And about 35-45 minutes from SLC.
http://www.city-data.com/city/Hooper-Utah.html

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09-13-2005, 11:43 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Got to work on the Lower Rear Fender. Both Driver and passenger side are in terrible shape so I have to patch the fender and the frame behind it

I started by cutting all the rust out and left enough so I could weld the backside of the Frame Patch.
Then I media blasted inside the frame.
And then cut out what had to be removed from the frame.
And then welded the new patch in place.



Cleaned the welds up with a grinder.



And then I stripped the rest of the undercoating off the back side of the fender



Sprayed it down with zero rust prep step.
Then let it dry out over night.


Then I painted the back side of the frame with Zero Rust Red Oxide using a acid brush (Only thing small enough to get inside the cut out)



Let it cure over night.
Then I sprayed the back side of the patch with 3M Weld-Thru Primer.

Welded the patch in making sure I under lapped so I can use less plastic filler then I would if I made it flush (because the welds well be higher never flush)



If you guys have any questions or comments on anything just ask
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09-20-2005, 07:58 PM   #35 (permalink)
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What a great thread. Thanks!
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09-20-2005, 10:51 PM   #36 (permalink)
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thanks [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_tup.gif[/img]
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09-21-2005, 09:57 AM   #37 (permalink)
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WOW[img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img] You availible for work? I have two rear quarters that need to be replaced on mine I dont know if I feel up to it quite yet. You have done some nice work. The car will be sweet when you are done.

Have you done work like this before?

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09-21-2005, 01:45 PM   #38 (permalink)
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WOW[img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img] You availible for work? I have two rear quarters that need to be replaced on mine I dont know if I feel up to it quite yet. You have done some nice work. The car will be sweet when you are done.

Have you done work like this before?

John
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Well I have helped my brother do patching on his old 67 mustang that he had (not panels though)
But this is my first restoration I pretty much have just read books watched movies talked to guys etc.
But I insist in doing all the work myself so I can get it the way I want it
But I think that the body skills skipped a generation in my family my grandpa restored a few cars and he use to restore airplanes But sadly he past away in 1999 and my dad inherited most of his body work tools and air tools and that is mostly what I use to work on the Ratstang But my dad hates doing body work. But I love doing body work Ide rather do body work then engine or drivetrain work.

If you got the money I got the garage [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif[/img]

Thanks for the comment [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_tup.gif[/img]
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09-21-2005, 03:10 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Well I got started on the Body Solder/Leading on the passenger side quarter panel on Monday it took me a while to get use to leading but I got it now

I would not recommend Leading for modern day high carbon steels that are put on newer cars


you have to prep the surface it has to be clean and free of any Paint, Primer, Etc. I started by using 80 grit on my Polisher/Sander
Then I wiped the surface down with Wax and Grease Remover (Wipe on Wipe Off)

Then you have to test the metal for heat flex
You heat it up with your torch if the metal starts to dive inward you have to take the torch off of it so that you don't cause it to oil can. You want the metal to go belly out come towards the heat from the torch

Let it cool

Then you have to heat the whole surface

Then you apply your tinned butter If you don't the lead well not stick to the metal
And you have to heat it up enough to get the tin in the butter to solder to the surface then with the tin hot you need to move it around with steel wool or bronze wool I recommend bronze wool so your not putting the rust into the surface from the steel wool

Then you have to let it cool

Then go over it with lacquer thinner

Then with baking soda water to disable all the acids in the tinning butter

then you reheat all the surface

At this time you well want to tallow you paddles

grab your lead bars keep the surface hot

Heat the lead bar tip 1/4 to 1/2 inch at a time

Then you want to press the melted tip of the bar into the surface and twist the bar to break the tip off

You are going to have to do this tell you fill the crack

Then you try to heat all of the lead (not way to hot were it starts to melt but just to were it looks shiny

Then grab your tallowed paddle and shape it (its a lot like putting frosting on a cake but it has to be 600*F to get the frosting to move [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img] )

You got to remember that lead is a incredible heat sink so it well melt from the center out so it well drip inside its self ones you lead you well know what I am talking about

you want to shape it as good as you can lead is not easy to shape with a file at all

If you have a part that has a dip in it that you need to raise heat
the surface tell it starts to get shiny if you get it to hot it well melt under itself and well become misshapen
Then you do the same thing heat this tip of the bar and jab it into it lightly then twist

Keep the whole surface hot grab your tallowed paddle and shape it

One thing you got to remember if it is to hot it well melt to its self if it is to cool the lead wont stick so if you don't keep the whole surface hot then the lead as you drag it with your paddle wont stick to the surface that is to cool and it well crack and break

Then you want to come over it shape it with the file

Then you want to sand all of the lead to shape it to were you want it start with 40 grit and then move up to 80 grit

You want to clean all of the surrounding surface with Metal Wash, Zero Rust Prep Step, or Metal Prep, or all of the metal surface surrounding the lead well be covered in surface rust caused by the acids in the lead

But remember safety guys Lead well not harm your hands or skin but it well give you lead poisoning if you breath the dusts or take lead internally in any way And the acids in the lead and in the tinned butter well harm you to so were a dust mask for sanding and use a charcoal filter for the acids
I were a full face supplied air respirator or a full face mask with filters approved for dust and some fumes at all times whether I am sanding lead based paints or any paints for that matter and when I spraying paints working with acids etc.

I try to support my hobby with less then 50-70$ a month so you don't have to have a lot of money to buy good safety equipment and to do a good job

Here is the other side for example of before



And after




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09-22-2005, 04:06 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Wow nice work. I think you should start up your own version of the TV series overhaulin!! LOL [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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