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06-18-2008, 07:02 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Manual transmission: Clutch cable kit

I ran the Modern Drive line cable set up on my 67 w/351. Had to ditch the Hooker Super Comps for Heddmans, but plenty of room - wrapped the header though it didnt need it.
The Mcleod diaphragm works great, so far has not slipped, smooth as silk, I have all this mounted up ahead of my Toploader running a Lakewood bell and fork.
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06-18-2008, 10:04 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: Manual transmission: Clutch cable kit

How is the feeling with a clutch cable kit? It's really better, smoother than the stock Z bar?
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06-19-2008, 06:03 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: Manual transmission: Clutch cable kit

ive never used a Zbar setup, so I cant comment. Ive heated up/slightly melted 2 cables so far, but ive fixed the mounting a little bit each time, and cables are cheap.

Going to swap in a hydraulic setup so0nish, maybe a winter project.
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06-20-2008, 09:06 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Re: Manual transmission: Clutch cable kit

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ive never used a Zbar setup, so I cant comment. Ive heated up/slightly melted 2 cables so far, but ive fixed the mounting a little bit each time, and cables are cheap.

Going to swap in a hydraulic setup so0nish, maybe a winter project.
Anyone know of a kit for a hydraulic set up?
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06-29-2008, 06:44 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Re: Manual transmission: Clutch cable kit

This is my first cable, and I was un certain having run Z bars in all my prev mustangs. Z bars can be rough, noisy and hard, especially with a good or Comp pressure plate, one leg gets bigger. I maintained and set up right, the Z bar is fine. I was worried about the feel though having driven 80's and 90's cable/5 spds, didnt like the feel of the clutch and tranny having owned nothing but mechanical clutches and Toploaders. I love the mechanical feel of the Toploader.

I am really pleased with the feel of the cable, it doesnt have the same smooth friction point, it comes up and bites a bit then engages, smoothly, that maybe the Mcleod plate and disc vice the cable. I really like the effortless pedal, and ease of adjustment. The only thing I dont like is the cable and headers. I have my Hooker big toobers hanging on the wall, with the 351, they would not work, I have seen Hooker big toobs on Bosses and 302/289s, so it may be the extra deck gets the collectors up tad higher? With the smaller Heddmans I have tons of room for the cable, but wrapped one tube just because I ordered the crap thinking I would need to.

I will either go back to the Z bar or hydraulic with the next motor, or look at mounts that lower the engine in the car a bit more. This one is just for beating on and having fun while I tinker.
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06-30-2008, 12:26 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Re: Manual transmission: Clutch cable kit

I have a hydraulic clutch kit in my '65 with 302, Tri-Y's and T5. Bellhousing is stock T5. The kit is made up of parts from CNC, the parts were purchased individually (from Carshop Inc) and I fabricated the slave cylinder bracket and clutch fork connection myself.

Clutch is a Centerforce Dual Friction. I really like the feel of the hydraulic, much better than my friends cable clutch setup which is harder than mine and sometimes get stuck.

BEWARE: If you choose hydraulic, remember to bleed the master before the system, I didn't at first and had to preload the clutch/bearing way too much because the stroke of the slave was a mere 15mm/0.6inch. I didn't ruin clutch, but it wears out quicker. After bleeding, the stroke is over 25mm/1inch.

Here is some photos of the parts and install, posted at MustangSteve. com a while ago:

FYI FORD - MustangSteve's Message Board: Re: powerbrakes with hydrualic clutch ?

FYI FORD - MustangSteve's Message Board: Re: powerbrakes with hydrualic clutch ?

(The spring used in the picture is a originally a park brake lever return spring, but after some driving I swapped it for a seat track spring 61828-1A (the long one) for an easier pedal effort.)


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FYI FORD - MustangSteve's Message Board: powerbrakes with hydrualic clutch ?
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06-30-2008, 01:24 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Re: Manual transmission: Clutch cable kit

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BEWARE: If you choose hydraulic, remember to bleed the master before the system,

What do you mean by bleeding the master before the system. Bench bleed ??

good info you posted
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11-11-2008, 11:06 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Re: Manual transmission: Clutch cable kit

Just to inform those concerned.

I bought Modern Driveline's kit and I'm expecting it soon. I've a 3 finger style and according some members it does not work but it's false, I emailed Bruce and here's his reply:

If the clutch lever height is under 2" clamped to the flywheel and releases in 3/8", yes it will work with a cable. Don't need to remove the booster and clutch pedal.

So to be sure, I contacted my clutch manufacture and yes it will work (SPEC clutch Stage II).

Also, I bought the correct clutch fork and of course, the late bellhousing type.

Will let you know of the progress.
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11-14-2008, 12:34 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Re: Manual transmission: Clutch cable kit

Mustang Steve has a very nice cable clutch setup. that's what I'm using and very happy with it. Plus compared to the others you are getting more for your money...JMHO

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