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02-03-2008, 07:21 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Re: 302 351W Miller 7075-T7 Aircraft Aluminum SBF Roller Rockers

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Paul, I need a set for 289/302 1.6 3/8 studs pay pal. info please.
In stock and ready to ship. Check your private messaging system here on the Forum and you'll find I've privided you with all the details in order to send in a Paypal payment.

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02-06-2008, 09:48 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Re: 302 351W Miller 7075-T7 Aircraft Aluminum SBF Roller Rockers

JEB,

Heads up your rockers are arriving today.

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02-06-2008, 05:48 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Re: 302 351W Miller 7075-T7 Aircraft Aluminum SBF Roller Rockers

I got 'em Thanks looks good .
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02-14-2008, 01:59 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Re: 302 351W Miller 7075-T7 Aircraft Aluminum SBF Roller Rockers

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I got 'em Thanks looks good .
Thanks for your business, Earl. As always, any questions just ask.

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02-15-2008, 10:26 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Re: 302 351W Miller 7075-T7 Aircraft Aluminum SBF Roller Rockers

I have a 302 that I'm working on. It will have a Comp Cams Magnum 270 cam in it. (.50" lift/270 dur) The motor has pedestal mount rockers on it now. It's a rebuilt motor so everything is new. For a mild street motor, is there much advantage in going to the roller rocker setup? I saw the Miller rockers and they look good and a great price. I was looking at the Comp Cams Magnum rockers which are kind of a "intro" roller rocker. There kind of a stamped rocker with a roller tip. The best price on those was $139 so the Miller's are a steal compared to that. I'll need the stud conversion kit to change from the pedestal mount to the stud mount to make the rollers work. Just having a hard time justifying $149 (rockers) + $95 (stud kit) on a mild street motor. I would think that the stock setup would handle things ok. I do like the adjustability of a stud mount rocker with polylocks. This is my first Ford. All the GM stuff that I had before only had to deal with pressed in or screw in studs. The pedestal mount is all new to me. Are they hard to setup? Some of the posts I've read talk about shimming and torque settings. Stud mount with polylocks is much simpler. Any insight into this would be appreciated. Thanks.

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02-15-2008, 10:56 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Re: 302 351W Miller 7075-T7 Aircraft Aluminum SBF Roller Rockers

Paul, did you get my email?

Looking for some info on these rockers. I sent through the link on your website
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02-15-2008, 01:43 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Re: 302 351W Miller 7075-T7 Aircraft Aluminum SBF Roller Rockers

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Paul, did you get my email?

Looking for some info on these rockers. I sent through the link on your website
My427stang,

If you are the one who inquired about the alternate application of these rocker arms, then yes I received your email and replied this morning at about 9:30 a.m. If your inquiry is relative to something other I've described, then I may not have received your email afterall and it's lost out in cyberspace somewhere...please try again or PM me.

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02-15-2008, 02:27 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Re: 302 351W Miller 7075-T7 Aircraft Aluminum SBF Roller Rockers

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I have a 302...with a Comp Cams Magnum 270 cam in it. (.50" lift/270 dur). The motor has pedestal mount rockers on it now. For a mild street motor, is there much advantage in going to the roller rocker setup? I saw the Miller rockers and they look good and a great price. I was looking at the Comp Cams Magnum rockers which are kind of a "intro" roller rocker. There kind of a stamped rocker with a roller tip. The best price on those was $139 so the Miller's are a steal compared to that. I'll need the stud conversion kit to change from the pedestal mount to the stud mount to make the rollers work. Just having a hard time justifying $149 (rockers) + $95 (stud kit) on a mild street motor. I would think that the stock setup would handle things ok. I do like the adjustability of a stud mount rocker with polylocks.

Kevin
Kevin, to answer your questions:
  • First and foremost, yes, the OEM pedestal rockers can work with the current build you described above. But they will likely require a little shimming which is no big deal once you understand why this is done (valve train optimization) , what to look for (evaluate current setup with current cam) and what to shoot for (correcting the valve train with the shims). Additionally, depending on any future camshaft profiles the OEM pedestal rockers do have their limits. Also, the amount of valve train geometry optimization will be limited with the pedestal setup. Finally, they are not as strong as the rockers being offered here in this thread.
  • Using the stud conversion kit and going with roller rockers will make for a more strong, stable, and precision valve train. You will have greater valve train adjustability. You will have more precise valve train adjustability. You will have a wider range of adjustability. There will also be much more room to grow, camshaft-wise. And there will be slightly less frictional losses (and the gains in frictional losses grow as camshaft size grows, spring pressures increase, and rpm's increase). Lastly, the design of the Miller rockers specifically are not only a proven patented design but they also make the valve train geometry setup as simple as can be.
Summary: For a street driven application, you can work with the OEM pedstal rockers in your current setup. Personally, if it were my engine--and I know I'd have my foot in it quite regularly --I'd spend the extra couple hundred bucks on my engine build and get a superior valve train and feel more comfortable about my build.

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02-15-2008, 02:49 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Re: 302 351W Miller 7075-T7 Aircraft Aluminum SBF Roller Rockers

Paul,

Thanks for the reply. I am definitely leaning towards the Miller rockers. I agree they are a much better setup than the stock and more adjustable and looks like a lot easier to work with. The extra $250 won't kill me but it wasn't planned so it has to come from somewhere. I'll let you know first of the week. Check my parts budget for this month and see where I'm at. Thanks.

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02-24-2008, 07:48 AM   #50 (permalink)
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Re: 302 351W Miller 7075-T7 Aircraft Aluminum SBF Roller Rockers

I got mine on, set up, and ran it this last weekend. I'm impressed. I checked lash after running it ALL day. Right on the money.

I'm VERY impressed with these rockers. And they aren't on a street motor by any means. 700" lift 270-274 solid roller, spins about 7700 across the finish line, shift at 7500. For the money, you ain't gonna beat 'em.

Thanks Paul!
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