Couple more stroker questions

I'm getting ready to order my stroker kit & my head is starting to hurt because of all the decisions I have to make. What I'm after is an absolute shag-nasty big cammed bad a** street car that I can take to the local drags (50 miles away). When I say say street car, we have no emissions testing, I'll have a manual trans, so I don't care about idle quality & I don't have power brakes, so I don't care about vaccum. I have a 9 mile drive down a Ga. country road to work, so I don't care about mileage either.

All along I've been leaning towards a CHP 408 kit. One of the fellas there (Tim, I think)talked me out of the forged crank kit saying that the block will let go before the crank did. Well, I spoke with Phil at Flatlanderracing today & He convinced me that I need a forged crank & should go with a 393 kit. He said it had a better rod ratio & would wind up quicker. By the way, in spite of his strange accent, he was a super guy (makes me think twice about dealing with the nimrods at chp - more later) very helpful.

My three questions are:

393 vs. 408?

Flatlanders vs, CHP?

For the longest time the hot lick in heads has been the AFR 185. All of a sudden, everyone wants to sell me the 205s, stating that the 185's is not enough head for either the 393 or 408. Is this just because the 205s sell for $500 more, or are they being truthful?

Rick

P.S. if you call CHP & get Eric, ask him to hold on for a second, then call back on another phone. This way you'll be guaranteed to get someone else on the line. What a nimrod. I told him I wanted pricing for a 408 kit...after he told me to hold on for the second time, he came back & asked what else he could get me for my 393 shortblock. This was just the beginning, I could go on for hours, but I'll wrap up with this. I asked for an e-mail quote for the kit, heads, pan, cam.... 24 hours later I got a nice picture of a probe piston instead.

definetly go with the cubes, i have a scat 9000 cast steel crank in my 406 and it has been just fine. i have had differing answers myself to the forged v cast crank debate. people i have spoken to seem to say that the cast crank is more forgiving than the forged crank, saying that i would always buy the best component i could get thats within my budget. with the heads, i am using edelbrock victor jrs with some bowl blending and a good amount of work on the exhaust, my 406 punched out 647hp at 7200. saying that if i knew about the DART PRO 1 225cc heads when i was choosing that would have been my choice. Killer flow figures with a bad arse cam is going to give you killer power

there is no diference between the scat 9000 and the first grade of forged crank as far as the strength goes. They are both about exactly the same. In fact you have to step up to 5140 forged steel to get a better tincil strength of 115,000 pounds. Scat's cast 9000 crank is a great choise for the money, and it is a lot stronger then stock.

Go with the cubes! Depending on how radical you plan on making it, you may not need a forged crank. But if you plan on something like 13:1 or more compression with a 600 shot of NOS, then a forged crank is a must!
I will no longer use SCAT products after witnessing 4 catostrophic failures that started right at the crank, but hey! its your money!

I agree on using the cast crank, forged is great but the natural twisting action of a cast crank still has a great longevity factor. As for which kit I will only make on recommendation, use the longest rod combination, it will make the most power. Which means rod over 6.1" you can use light weight componets if you can afford them or use any combination of ford chevy, chrysler your choice or crowler, scat, whatever just use the longest rod and you will make serious power.
Mac

I'm looking for a stock 4brl cast iron intake that will fit the
351c heads to the 351w block to make a 500+hp 375 stroker
motor. These intakes were found and used on the Boss 351
Mustangs.And they were factory production parts.

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On 2004-09-02 02:48, FORDNUT wrote:
I'm looking for a stock 4brl cast iron intake that will fit the
351c heads to the 351w block to make a 500+hp 375 stroker
motor. These intakes were found and used on the Boss 351
Mustangs.And they were factory production parts.
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There was no such animal from Ford! The intakes on Boss 351's were aluminum, and 351 Windsors were cast iron. The two do not interchange. Yes, its possible to put 351C heads on a 351W block, but the C intake will not fit because the two blocks have different deck heights. Also, the Windsors cooling system needs to have provision for coolant to exit the intake manifold...something a Cleveland manifold does not have.

http://www.enginekits.com/Catalog04.pdf

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They offer good stuff at reasonable prices.. Mac

Good luck, you'll never have the best unless your the one building it, classic arguements, buy what you can afford, most folks mean well myself included, but the old adage still applies.

"How fast do you want to go? horsepower costs money, how much can you afford. "


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I would go with the cast steel crank also
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