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04-18-2008, 09:59 AM
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ujt389
Join Date: Jul 2004
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351 c crank into a 302
Has anyone here ever turned down a 351 clevleand crank to put it into a 302 windsor? I was wondering if it was possible and how much it would cost. I would lke a 3.4 inch stroke when its all through. Please dont tell me to just buy a cheap stroker crank from eagle because no chinese parts are going on this car.
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04-18-2008, 11:15 AM
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dfree383
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Re: 351 c crank into a 302
Hate to bust your balls, but I think your wasting you time trying to do a widdle a cleveland crank, just get a Scat Stroker Crank, I've used 3 of them over the years and have had zero problems with them. I got the last one on Ebay for Less than 150.00.... and everything inspected and mic'd fine.
The Scat stuff is machined in the USA and their QA/QC is much better than Eagle IMO.
The Aftermarket stuff is much easier (and Cheaper) to balance too......
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04-18-2008, 02:18 PM
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BIGJOE
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Re: 351 c crank into a 302
Years ago we used to things like this. It is NOT cost effective . It would cost around 500 dollars to grind it and so forth, then it might cost another 500 to get it balanced. Your not that dumb, are you ?
JOE SHERMAN RACING ENGINES
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04-18-2008, 03:43 PM
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feeble
Join Date: Apr 2008
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Re: 351 c crank into a 302
Cost isn't always the only consideration (besides, maybe he has a buddy at a machine shop). Sometimes the "hack factor" plays into it too. Making a Windsor block based stroker with a cut down 351C crank, oddball piston and rod combination, Cleveland heads, and homebrew Megaquirt EFI run and run well has appeal to me. The "hack factor", what hot rodding used to be all about.
ujt389: This might be useful to you: ftp://ftp.chucko.com/fordnatics/archive/stroker.text
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04-18-2008, 06:04 PM
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ujt389
Join Date: Jul 2004
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Re: 351 c crank into a 302
Yes I do have a buddy at a machine shop, and cost isint always the key issue. Now its about doing something that not everyone does. Its hard for some people to wrap their heads around my logic, but I dont really care. Feeble, you hit the nail on the head. I knew there would be someone with a like mind on this forum. If it is really gunna cost 1000 dollars I might try something else but im just thinking of ideas for right now and seeing how much something like this might cost.
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04-19-2008, 12:41 AM
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4Lowie
Join Date: Apr 2008
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Re: 351 c crank into a 302
Bring on the hack factor...... It's what hot rodding is about, or should be. Hot rodding wouldn't be if people just parted with cash every time. Remember most of what you can buy now started as someones idea/hack.
Just my thoughts.........
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04-20-2008, 05:08 PM
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retyler
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: 351 c crank into a 302
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Lowie
Bring on the hack factor...... It's what hot rodding is about, or should be. Hot rodding wouldn't be if people just parted with cash every time. Remember most of what you can buy now started as someones idea/hack.
Just my thoughts.........
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What you say is true, but why go back and reinvent the wheel? Old time motorheads paved the way and the manufactures picked up on it and produced it so others can now reap the benefits at a reasonable cost. Rather than going backwards, pickup where they left off and improve on it.
Just another way of looking at things.
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04-21-2008, 12:06 PM
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dfree383
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Re: 351 c crank into a 302
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Lowie
Bring on the hack factor...... It's what hot rodding is about, or should be. Hot rodding wouldn't be if people just parted with cash every time. Remember most of what you can buy now started as someones idea/hack.
Just my thoughts.........
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Why Spend a bunch of Money / Time Hacking something when you can get a quality part for less............ It's not like the correct parts aren't avaliable or are way expensive. We are talking Well under $200 for a Scat Cast Crank Here.... If its not about money, then spend more doing the hack job.... That really make total sence to me.
I kinda like the way Joe put it........ and I'm going to add a little to it "Stupid is as Stupid Does".... Its your money.
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04-21-2008, 01:23 PM
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fastcoupe68
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Re: 351 c crank into a 302
Quote:
Originally Posted by dfree383
Why Spend a bunch of Money / Time Hacking something when you can get a quality part for less............ It's not like the correct parts aren't avaliable or are way expensive. We are talking Well under $200 for a Scat Cast Crank Here.... If its not about money, then spend more doing the hack job.... That really make total sence to me.
I kinda like the way Joe put it........ and I'm going to add a little to it "Stupid is as Stupid Does".... Its your money.
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Amen on that!!
ken
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04-22-2008, 10:48 AM
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feeble
Join Date: Apr 2008
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Re: 351 c crank into a 302
You guys are harsh! Going through this process would also be a good learning experience (although the only thing learned might be that it is easier & cheaper to buy a stroker crank than make one.) Smart @ss comments aside, I don't think you would learn as much about engines and how they work just buying a stroker kit where all of the engineering and the process has already been thought out for you. To put it another way, why do you guys bother to build cars when you can go buy a new one already done from Ford? It would be much easier and (in some cases) cheaper. "You're not that dumb, are you?" (corrected that grammar error for you Big Joe ) The original posters priorities are different than yours, he has access to the resources, wants to use American made steel, and will probably learn something good in the process, something that maybe will help one of you out someday when you have a question. What is so wrong with that?
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