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07-22-2005, 12:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a question. I am new to Fords so please pardon my lack of knowledge. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img] I have a 76 Cougar that I just inherited from my grandmother. The body style looks real close to the Torino. It has a 351M, C4 tranny with a 270 something diff. (Forgot the exact number) I am having a hard time finding parts to help me restore/Rod it. I was wondering if the Torino part would work in the Cougar.

I was looking for headers, cams, intake, carbs and fenders. Over all the car is in OK condition with 64K on it but it needs some TLC. I am sure I will be back with other question but I want to read more post first.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_bow.gif[/img]

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07-22-2005, 12:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Chris,
Welcome to FordMuscle. You came to the right place for performance oriented questions about your 76 Cougar. We've got a lot of technical material for these cars in our archives. You know most everything you can do to a 72/73 Torino can be done to your Cougar.

If you are just looking for some quick peformance upgrades for your 351M then you may want to simply do the edelbrock intake and carb conversion we did in this article. Headers would be good too. Go to summitracing.com or jegs.com

http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2...tego/index.php

Most guys here will tell you not to spend too much on that 351M since it's destroked. I'd have to agree unless you replace the crank with a 400 crank and add some closed chambered 2V cleveland heads, which would be fun.Your long term plans might be for a Small Block stroker which we have a lot of info about too, in the archives.

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07-23-2005, 09:58 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It's true, a stock 351M isn't much to start with, but turning it into a 400 opens a lot of doors. As for body panels, you'll find your Cougar shares sheetmetal with the Mercury Montego and Ford Elite. The replacement panels are rare if they exist at all and most people in possession of good panels realize their rarity and try to charge you an are and a leg for a rust-free piece. On my website, SmogEra.com, a visitor to my message boards said somebody tried to charge him over $500 for a panel for his '75 Cougar!

Despite the problem finding good sheetmetal, the mid-70's Cougars, Montegos, and Elites are wonderful cars to have and enjoy. You can use all the same parts and upgrades as the Torinos while taking pride in the fact your car is much less common.
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07-25-2005, 11:23 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Now you've gone and done it. You have sparked my interest in converting the 351M to the 400 but it is going to take some time for me to get the cash up. From what I have read so far, it sounds like it would take a 400 crank and head to make this a 400. Right?

My first concerns are shocks, exhaust, intake and carb. These are all in very bad condition and need to be fix very soon. Maybe for a winter project I will do the conversion. Will the 351M headers fit the 400 heads?

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07-25-2005, 02:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Yes, all you would need is a 400 crank and 400 pistons. Most people I know who had a 351M made it into a 400 when it came time to rebuild it since it's so simple. 351C, 351M, and 400 heads all would work but most prefer the 351C's. Edelbrock has even started making aluminum 351C heads if you wanted to go that route. You'll have to do a little reasearch on different pistons and chamber sizes to get the compression ratio you want; the 351M and 400 stock compressions were extremely low. You'll also want to use an earlier 351C timing chain set, as the 351M and 400 were retarded 6 degrees.

As for the rest of the parts you asked about, I've just installed a set of KYB shocks on my Elite. They're a bit firmer than stock replacements but that's helpful in getting one of these heavy cars to corner well. I'm also using the HD springs for a 'C' code 460 car. The suspension is very firm overall but that's what I was going for. Handles much better than you would expect by looking at it. The shocks run between $20-$30 each from Summit.

For intake and carb on the stock engine, you can't go wrong with an Edelbrock Performer and you shouldn't need any more than a 600 cfm carb. You might want to step up to a 750 cfm if/when you turn it into a 400, depending on the level of performance you build into it.

For exhaust, I'd just take it to your local exhaust shop. It's pretty easy to install a nice duel exhaust and H-pipe on these cars. I just had this put on my Elite; 2.5" pipe, a pair of "turbo" style mufflers, and a pair of long custom fit 3" stainless tips for $325. Sounds really nice out the back and quiet inside.

Hope this helps.


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07-25-2005, 03:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for the information.

I will have to give this some thought before I begin. I would hate to buy parts to find out they will need to be replace when I go the 400.

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07-25-2005, 04:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Anything that will bolt to the 351m will bolt to the 400. They are almost identical engines, the ONLY difference being the crank and the pistons. Heads, intakes, exhaust, all that jazz is all the same.

Check out the dyno page for specs on a moderate 400 build.
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